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Old 12-31-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default For Sale - 993 in HK

Guys,

I am selling my 993 in HK, pls find the details as follows:

- 1995 manufactured, 1996 Model, 1st registered in 1997.
- 20,000 KM, full Jebsen Record with all service record stamps on booklet.
- Perfect condition, probably 1 of the lowest mileage 993 in HK.

If you are interested, pls PM me for further details.
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:16 PM
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ok, which blue is that? Blue Turquoise (L3AR/S)?

Looks great... good luck with the sale!
Old 12-31-2007, 06:23 PM
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Turquoise Blue it is!
But too bad its RHD...
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I like that color! You can drive RHD in the US can't you? There are lots of RHD cars appearing here in Vancouver since people are not importing Japanese trucks/cars that you can't get here. In Japan, they require a big retest after 6-7 years so its often easier just to buy a new one...so these vehicles are available cheap. All of the are RHD.

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Old 01-01-2008, 11:37 PM
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Hey nice car . I just got back from Hong Kong I would of liked to of check this fine 993 specimen .Saw 1 white 96 tip. coupe in Macau and in HK saw a C2S tip . and a targa couldn`t tell if 6 spd or tip . both were Iris blue .

Yours is also tip . and (Zenith ? )blue . So I guess blue n tip are popular in HK .

Cheers Guy
Old 01-02-2008, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by f8vr993
Turquoise Blue it is!
But too bad its RHD...
...not to mention that you would not be thrilled with the market price of 993s in HK vs. in the U.S.
Old 01-02-2008, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by briefescape
Hey nice car . I just got back from Hong Kong I would of liked to of check this fine 993 specimen .Saw 1 white 96 tip. coupe in Macau and in HK saw a C2S tip . and a targa couldn`t tell if 6 spd or tip . both were Iris blue .

Yours is also tip . and (Zenith ? )blue . So I guess blue n tip are popular in HK .

Cheers Guy
I would guess that 90-95% of the Porsches in HK are tip. Exceptions would be 993TT and 964 Turbos of course.
Old 01-02-2008, 10:57 AM
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Hi there, I am interested in your car and I live in HK

Can you tell me how many transfers are on the registration as well as any other addtional info.

btw...out of curiositym why are you selling such a fine vehicle?

you can email me at

ddsiu@aol.com
Old 01-02-2008, 11:31 AM
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Hi ddsiu, no. of transfer on paper is 3.
Why? I really don't know if I am doing it right, this is actually the 2nd 993 I have ever had, the first one was sold in 2004 with lots of regret, that's why I bought this car last year. However, as I am have ordered a new Cayenne to accomodate my first baby, I'd better sell this lovely 993 than affording 2 cars ! Feel free to PM me if you have any Q.
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Default HK reg docs.

In HK the document tracks number of former keepers. Hence if you are the first registered owner the document shows 0 (Zero) under number of former keepers. Always looks strange when you see a three year old car advertised with a dealer and it says 0 owner.
If you are the second owner then it shows 1 former keeper on the document. If it shows 3 on the document then that means three former keepers and current keeper is the fourth keeper.

Hope that helps.
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hey thanks for the info..this newbie have another question. I was at a dealer the other day and he insisted that I need to put down a deposit before I can take the car to inspect (on my expense of course). He said the deposit will be fully refunded if there are "serious" problems with the vehicle. I am very uncomfortable with putting any money down before I have the inspection and his definition of serious can greatly differ then mine. Is this common practice in HK? Please help!

Thanks!
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This is common in HK, but it depends on which dealer if you really want to get the refund because normally they will make you pay the deposit and sign the contact. The contract will have a clause saying that the purchase is subject to car inspection and no "major" collison. But who can tell what is 'major', that's why buyer always difficult to get the refund. Moreover, only your experience can tell whether the car has geniue mileage, don't trust the dealer and what you see on the clock, the interior condition is something that can help you to make a fair judgement.
If you are going to buy a car and new to HK, feel free to give me a call if you want some tips. Even if you are not interested in my car, it is ok to assist any Rennlist friends!
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Ditto on what cartoon blue said.

Assuming you are talking about a porsche, full service history at the OPC or a reputable porsche independent workshop will be good indicator of the mileage. Of course, do get the OPC or a reputable workshop to do the PPI.

I get my car serviced at Road and Track (no affiliation other than being a happy customer so far) - and they do PPIs.

PM me if you want details.

Cheers,

Alan

P.S. Cartoon blue - good luck with your sale - you have a nice looking 993!
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Very Nice indeed.

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Default Buying a Porsche in HK.

Deposit prior to inspection. Yes this is common practice.

It's an interesting one. From a buyers perspective it commits you and puts the onus on you to prove that the car has an issue.

Personally, having bought cars through dealers in HK in the past, I would not buy through a dealer again. For my current Porsche I waited for 2 years for this 1 owner example to come up as a private sale. Full history, detailed chat with the owner who it turned out had three other Porsches, a Ferrari and a Bently (Go figure), open conversations with Jebson who had serviced the car from new. I am very, very happy with my Targa.

Buying through samll none specialist car dealers ( a few of these Sharks at the car show in Wan Chai) is less comfortable. Often there is no history available and the service book is not stamped. They tell you to get the history from the main dealer, the main dealer tells you they are not allowed to release the information without permission of the owner. The car dealer doesn't want you to talk to the owner in case you find out his ludicrous commission (on a car costing 500K he will be taking 60K minimum) and try to cut him out of the deal. They will try to encourage you not to have a PPI done by Jebson or a good independent like R&T, they will say it's too expensive and refer you to someone none specialist in your chosen porsche like the AA. If you go on to buy the car they will be intransigent if you go back and complain about defects. At that point they will remind you that the car is not new and that faults are normal, in short they will tell you you are too fussy.

My best advice, buy private or if you can afford it and they have a nice example buy from Jebson. Once cars get outside the main dealer and change hands a few times history becomes sketchy. Don't rush into any purchase, take your time and be very patient. Read lots about the car your thinking of buying, learn about the common faults. Avoid anything that has been poorly re-painted, you will see this at the edges of the panels adjacent to the rubber trims. A good respray done properly is nothing to be afraid of as long as you know the full history of the car. Most 993's out there are 10 years plus old, if services have been missed you will likely end up with a big bill in the first year to catch up on maintainence issues that have been ignored. Common faults are oil leaks. Some oil leaks run to no more than a few thousand HK$ to put right. If a major engine seal goes then the engine will need to come out and you are looking at anywhere between 20 and 40 thousand HK$ to fix at Jebson.

Finally, insist on paying for a PPI and even though the independents are capable I would still say go to Jebson. Talk to William in the service department, he is very helpful.

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