Final recommendations before I pull the trigger on new tires , please.
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Final recommendations before I pull the trigger on new tires , please.
I've decided to switch to the stock 17" Cup II wheels for my '95 coupe. I bought a set of wheels and was going to take my time and keep an eye out for any great deals on tires. Unfortunately I had a flat last week that ruined one of my rear tires on my current 18" wheels. Rather than replace that tire I am going to move to the 17" wheels now.
To make a long story short one of the new wheels was not usable and finding replacement in a hurry was expensive. I am now way over budget on this.
I have narrowed my tire search to the following three choices:
Michelin Pilot Sports N2 (stock sizing) for $960 out the door after rebate
Pirelli P-zero Rosso N3 (stock sizing) for $1000 out the door after rebate
BF Goodrich g-Force Sport (stock sizing) for $605 out the door after rebate
Treadware is 340 on the BF Goodrich, 220 on the Michelin and 230 on the Pirelli's.
I have LSD but I don't tear through tires. These will probably last me 3 years or more given my milage.
All of these came highly recommended.
Is there something obvious I am missing before I decide?
One final question, would you buy the road hazard warranties?
Thanks!
Jim
To make a long story short one of the new wheels was not usable and finding replacement in a hurry was expensive. I am now way over budget on this.
I have narrowed my tire search to the following three choices:
Michelin Pilot Sports N2 (stock sizing) for $960 out the door after rebate
Pirelli P-zero Rosso N3 (stock sizing) for $1000 out the door after rebate
BF Goodrich g-Force Sport (stock sizing) for $605 out the door after rebate
Treadware is 340 on the BF Goodrich, 220 on the Michelin and 230 on the Pirelli's.
I have LSD but I don't tear through tires. These will probably last me 3 years or more given my milage.
All of these came highly recommended.
Is there something obvious I am missing before I decide?
One final question, would you buy the road hazard warranties?
Thanks!
Jim
#2
Race Director
I have never heard anyone who's happy with Pirellis
Did you look at Bridgestone Re-050A Pole Position? Treadwear rating is lower, however.
Did you look at Bridgestone Re-050A Pole Position? Treadwear rating is lower, however.
#3
Three Wheelin'
I'm on my second full set of Michelin Pilots ...couldn't be happier.
I keep mine at 35/35 psi and the wear is even and the road noise is negligible.
True the rears _do_ wear 'faster' than the fronts (I have an LSD too) but, hey, c'est la vie.
Gerry
I keep mine at 35/35 psi and the wear is even and the road noise is negligible.
True the rears _do_ wear 'faster' than the fronts (I have an LSD too) but, hey, c'est la vie.
Gerry
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If you don't track, I used a previous version of the Bridgestone 050 (the 750) and really loved them for the price. About $800 mounted if I recall, lasted well, but took spirited driving well too. Prob not as sticky as Pilot Sports, but lots cheaper too. Ray C. used to swear by them (and then swear at the person asking) too, if that is any indication of the value part of them.
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Drifting
Pilots for sure!!!
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I installed 245/295 PS2s the last time around and they were much better than the SO2s and SO3s I had previously....they may not be everyone's favorite tire but few people would find fault with them. If the price is not an issue for you then they are a "safe" choice.
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I'm almost afraid to offer this on a subject everyone feels so strongly about, but buy the Michelins.
It has always been my experience that Michelins (with the exception of some mid-80's "ultra performance" models) offer a much softer breakaway than many competing tires, especially Pirellis.
We've owned several sets of both brands and, make no mistake, the Pirellis are uniformly high quality tires but, in this one dimension, they have uniformly disappointed me, where the Michelins are quite strong in this area. The result is a somewhat less "critical" tire when you're pushing the car, especially on the street.
Flame suit on - just trying to help.
Regards to all.
It has always been my experience that Michelins (with the exception of some mid-80's "ultra performance" models) offer a much softer breakaway than many competing tires, especially Pirellis.
We've owned several sets of both brands and, make no mistake, the Pirellis are uniformly high quality tires but, in this one dimension, they have uniformly disappointed me, where the Michelins are quite strong in this area. The result is a somewhat less "critical" tire when you're pushing the car, especially on the street.
Flame suit on - just trying to help.
Regards to all.
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Drifting
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PS2s = awesome street tire
P-zero = crap, especially in the rain
BFG = great tire but not in the rain
If $$$ are not an issue, I'd go for PS2s on a street car. Howerver, you said "I'm way over budget". If cost is an issue, you should look at Falkens and Kumhos. I've got Falken Azenis 615s (#1 AX tire) and they are fantasitc on both dry and wet but they are a sport tire (little noisy, stiff walls and low treadwear rating). The top of the line sport tire on either of these brands will cost no more than ~$500 on 17" sizes.
P-zero = crap, especially in the rain
BFG = great tire but not in the rain
If $$$ are not an issue, I'd go for PS2s on a street car. Howerver, you said "I'm way over budget". If cost is an issue, you should look at Falkens and Kumhos. I've got Falken Azenis 615s (#1 AX tire) and they are fantasitc on both dry and wet but they are a sport tire (little noisy, stiff walls and low treadwear rating). The top of the line sport tire on either of these brands will cost no more than ~$500 on 17" sizes.
#12
I had the Bridgestones on my car and thought they were good tires. Unfortunatley I had a friend talk me into a set of Goodyear's OMG I should have know better what a terrible set of tires! Here in the near future I will be switching to the Michellin Pilot Sports like I should have purchased in the first place.
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Take a look at Dulops Sport Maxx.Great reviews and highly recommended to
me by Tire Rack.I also have 17".They are very quiet and for street use I really
like them.Good luck
Joseph
me by Tire Rack.I also have 17".They are very quiet and for street use I really
like them.Good luck
Joseph
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If anything, you want wider tires in the front. However, you do need to be concerned about trying to match overall diameter (OD) which in turn affect RPMs. If they're within a 4% variance in OD with the rears, go for it. You can find this info in the spec page for PS2s at tirerack.com.
#15
Burning Brakes
I can't recommend highly enough (performance and wear, wet/dry noise) the Yokohama Advan Neova. 2 911's, 2 996's and a 993 later, and first hand experience with Conti SP2, Pirelli PZero's, Michelin, Bridgestone (S-02's and S-03's), the Advan's have impressed the most. I have not run the latest Michelin PS2's though and have heard nothing but praise for them also. Downside...stupid expensive like the PS2's especially in 295/30/18.