dbf73

too old at 29?

Scooter92

Thanks for your insight Noah. Now that you have a 993, does that mean Pelican's 993 forum will get any better?

Scooter92

Nobody has said that the 3rd car (daily driver) idea was good. I take it that some of you drive your 993's daily?

Okay, another thought...'95 C2 just as Noah described his vs. '97 C4S as described less the PSS9s? C4S worth the price difference?

VNTGSPD

What do you mean 3rd car? Hot rod plus significant other's car plus your DD? If so, that's a great idea especially if the DD is a 993!

To me, the extra $$$ for a C4S over a C2 is not worth it since I have no need for awd (although it is fun) and the wide hips, bigger brakes, and front bumper changes. Don't get me wrong, I prefer them, just not enough to pay for them. I'd rather have the PSS9 (and maybe a G50/21!).

David

Scooter92

My wife has a sport utility and I have my early car currently. I am either going to get an M3 for a daily driver (sub $15,000) and keep the early car (3 cars), or sell the early car and get a 993 (2 cars).

Svaha

Wait until you can keep the car and get a 993. A C4S with mid miles can be had for under $40k, I got mine with 78k on it. Rallyjon has analyzed the price premium on the C4S in another thread to a tee, there is a point above which the radical premium for the S status drops off. I drive my wife and two kiids in it and its a daily driver. I will now keep this car forever. When I can afford to, I'll get myself something like what you've got now.

Bill Verburg

JMO, but it all depends on what you are looking for, w/ few exceptions the newer the car the less sporting the nature of the car will be in stock form. The new car target buyer isn't looking for a race car, but rather a comfortable daily driver. As a result most 964, 993, 996, 997 come w/a a raft of performance sapping characteristics and options. Almost execpted are the niche models like RS, GT3, GT3RS etc
excepted are Club sport and Cup versions

All it takes is money and drive to place your car anywhere on the spectrum from full race to full dentist daily driver.

The older the car the closer to the full race end it start at, but the less room or at least it's increasingly more expensive to install desireable upgrades that are standard in a 993, things like coilovers, decent brakes, abs, 6 spd, decent sized wheels and tires, 3.6 etc.

I love my 1976 C3, stock it was wonderfull, mods over the years have made it more capable in a sprorting sense but still no match for my also very modded 993. Yet the 993 is still more comfortable and easier to drive.

You guys have hit the nail as to the 993 sporting shortfalls, weight, gearing and suspension

mrsullivan

+1

VNTGSPD

THIS is the way I would go. The E36 M3 is a truly awesome car. Of the various cars I have had, the E36 M3 and the Lancer Evo are are neck and neck when it comes to the best all around car. The M3 is fun to drive, has ample people space and luggage space, sweet drivetrain, etc. Plus a sub-$15K M3 will not see much depreciation unless you pile miles on a low mileage example which you probably can't get for less than $15 anyway. With any luck, you could drive the M3 for a few years then move up to a 993 while still keeping the early car.

One more thing to point out is that I drive my 993 every day and truly enjoy it. It does nearly everything very well. But when I get in my '69 911, it immediately puts a smile on my face and I say to myself that I will never sell it. That doesn't happen with any other car I have ever owned, including the 993.

Good Luck!

CarmG993

What do you mean my 'early hot rod'. Old Chevy, Ford, Pontiac muscle car?
I can't speak from experience on differences, but I would thing 2 different beasts.
I have been wanting to get a weekend old style muscle car.

Scooter92

Sorry, early 911 hotrod. I just figured it was assumed.

pcar964

Unfortunately the 993 will never match the old hot rods (modded 70s and 80s 911s) in terms of feel. Those old cars, you can't help but laugh as soon as the engine starts up, they're just special and there's no denying it. No other car can do that, save for a few Ferraris.

That said, the 993 is a great compromise for those of us living in hellishly hot climates, or who want to drive it on a more regular basis, maybe even with a passenger The truth is there's no such thing as the perfect 911 - the lucky among us are able to own more than one Porsche, that's the only way.

JM993

No offense, but something is definitely wrong with your car. CIS throttle response is pathetic.

creator8

I bought my 993 because of my early hot rod obsession. I've owned a few and currently have a 69 911T w/ 2.9 and the 993 Targa. I bought the 993 to replace a hot rodded Subaru STI as my daily after getting into the long hoods. What I love about the 993 is that is so obviously a direct evolution of the early cars. As mentioned the windshield, side windows, dash and seating position are basically the same. The view over the hood's a little different. Yes the 993 is heavier, more comfortable and insulates you way more than the early cars do, but its still obviously got the same DNA.

Sure you could run an early car as a daily if you have a short commute, you live where the weather is fairly temperate and don't necessarily need mod cons. But a 993 is a better option for that. Having said that if I was forced to part with either the 98 or the 69, I'd get rid of the 98. Once you drive them its very clear why there is a such a legend around the 911 and where it came from.

RS 197

Keep the Hot Rod.........

You can always get a 993 down the road. If you have to sell the Hot Rod, try a 964. Great daily driver with a little more early car feel than the 993.


Good luck.