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Old 04-25-2007, 12:42 PM
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At our PCA Performance Driving School last weekend I was witness to the fraility if the wasser cooled 996's when a 2003 996 Turbo hit a standard soft orange plastic cone on the track at about 60mph that literally tore the aluminum corner of one of his front radiators off slathering the track with antifreeze and almost costing him a motor.

Two weeks earlier I hit a 5lb rock that rolled off a hill at about the same speed and all it did to my 993 was crack my lower front bumper cover.

996's are better than 993's.......NOT!

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Old 04-25-2007, 12:53 PM
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Modern cars are designed to absorb as much energy as it can during a crash by sacrificing itself. Thus is makes it seem fragile, but its actually designed that way.
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Originally Posted by texas911
Modern cars are designed to absorb as much energy as it can during a crash by sacrificing itself. Thus is makes it seem fragile, but its actually designed that way.
I'd buy that arguement if he crashed, but all he did was clip a cone...nothing should be that fragile IMHO!

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Old 04-25-2007, 01:18 PM
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:20 PM
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All we're missing here is a link on the 996 forum!
Old 04-25-2007, 01:24 PM
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Watching 996 Cup races the same thing would happen all the time. Slightest bumper tap and a front radiator would go. You'd think they'd protect them better.
Old 04-25-2007, 01:29 PM
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Hard to pass judgement based on that one incident. You have no idea exactly what happened nor do you know if there was preexisting damage (to the car, not the cone ).
Old 04-25-2007, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ZombiePorsche44
At our PCA Performance Driving School last weekend I was witness to the fraility if the wasser cooled 996's when a 2003 996 Turbo hit a standard soft orange plastic cone on the track at about 60mph that literally tore the aluminum corner of one of his front radiators off slathering the track with antifreeze and almost costing him a motor.
Sounds like a unlucky hit to me. I've never had any problems hitting the occasional cone in my car.

I'd put far more "weight" behind the stoutness of Porsche's 996 design after seeing hundreds of 996's mix it up in Grand Am Cup and ALMS racing. I've seen plenty of those cars take some pretty good hits and continue on racing.

However, I doubt your interested in facts as the point of this thread seems to be to create additional 993/996 conflict.
Old 04-25-2007, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by beers4all
All we're missing here is a link on the 996 forum!
Better yet the 996TT forum
Old 04-25-2007, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TRINITONY
Butter please.
Old 04-25-2007, 03:41 PM
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Cool Fraility of the 996 motor???

The 996 Turbo has the same engine case that you do...it just has different heads with water passages. Like it or not, the water cooled heads do a pretty good job keeping the engine cool. The question is, what medium transfers away the most heat per unit of measure, water or oil and air as we have on our 996 cars? I suspect it may be water.

I suspect the radiator system is the frail part, not the motor.

I would never buy a 996 standard car with a throw away motor and tranny...I'll keep my old technology 993 motor, thank you. I did add a second radiator to keep things cool....

Now let's just sit back and relax...let the games begin
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Let the holy war beginnnnnnnnnn!!!
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Originally Posted by TRINITONY
Uh.....Huh right next to ya brother, who's bringin' the beer? This should get good
Old 04-25-2007, 05:29 PM
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Whats a 996??? Did i miss somethin??

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Old 04-25-2007, 05:31 PM
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Not to add a log to the fire, but....

I've seen nearly the same thing happen to a 996TT an an autocross at the E-Center in Salt Lake City. He got out of shape and mowed down about four of the short cones. Coolant everywhere and they had to come get his car with a flat bed. As I recall, he had just recently obtained the car.


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