993 The Last True Porsche?
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FB Fisher: OK, I'll admit to one more thing... I went into my local Porsche store in Rockville MD last week to finally look at the 997 (which didn't thrill me at all, but that's another story). I saw this: the "new" 2004 GT3 in black on black - oh my!!!
Yeah, I guess there ARE other Porsches I'd be interested in one day!
Steve
Yeah, I guess there ARE other Porsches I'd be interested in one day!
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I just got back from an early morning drive in my 78 SC. I left my 04 996 in the garage this week to get into something more visceral. Which one is a true Porsche? They're all true Porsches and that's the great thing about this marque. There is a Porsche model for everyone's taste and pocketbook.
mnmblu, the 993 saved Porsche. According to a years ago Excellence article, the Porsche management had a consulting group from Toyota help them improve their quality control and manufacturing efficiency. The 993 came out at a lower price than the 964 and launched Porsche into profitability.
Jeff, you need to do allot more research and don't narrow your search too early. The 993 C4S is a very nice vehicle, but there are very many Porsches to chose from. Take your time. The journey is as much fun as the finish. I was able to see very many Porsches at PCA autocrosses and DE's. The drivers were friendly and I was able to sit in many cars. You can get rides depending on the organization sponsoring the event. It's a cheap way to sample allot of cars. Good luck in your search.
mnmblu, the 993 saved Porsche. According to a years ago Excellence article, the Porsche management had a consulting group from Toyota help them improve their quality control and manufacturing efficiency. The 993 came out at a lower price than the 964 and launched Porsche into profitability.
Jeff, you need to do allot more research and don't narrow your search too early. The 993 C4S is a very nice vehicle, but there are very many Porsches to chose from. Take your time. The journey is as much fun as the finish. I was able to see very many Porsches at PCA autocrosses and DE's. The drivers were friendly and I was able to sit in many cars. You can get rides depending on the organization sponsoring the event. It's a cheap way to sample allot of cars. Good luck in your search.
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Jeff,
You sound like a great kid and a Chicago kid to boot! I grew up in Glencoe. I like your comment "As I grew up" he he. You still have a ways to go my boy. You have me in your corner and I'm puttin out the good vibes for you and I know you will be driving the best and most fun car, and maybe the last, car your will ever by.
You sound like a great kid and a Chicago kid to boot! I grew up in Glencoe. I like your comment "As I grew up" he he. You still have a ways to go my boy. You have me in your corner and I'm puttin out the good vibes for you and I know you will be driving the best and most fun car, and maybe the last, car your will ever by.
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Mike,
My brother was an New Trier "Indian." Back in the day, ha. He graduated in 65. I went to Glencoe West in Cherry Hill right off Forest Way Drive and Dundee. They didn't even have two New Trier's back then, can you imagine being that old? Oh, shoot I am that old. Anyway, been out here in Studio City since 65. Used to go back to Chicago on business a half dozen times a year but haven't been back in about 2 years now. I miss the 15 days in Spring and another 15 in Fall when the weather is sooo nice.
Anyway, I love Chicago and am VERY glad to have had my formative years there instead of here. But... as an adult, boy I sure am glad I live here and am able to come "home" at my liking.
Where do you live?
My brother was an New Trier "Indian." Back in the day, ha. He graduated in 65. I went to Glencoe West in Cherry Hill right off Forest Way Drive and Dundee. They didn't even have two New Trier's back then, can you imagine being that old? Oh, shoot I am that old. Anyway, been out here in Studio City since 65. Used to go back to Chicago on business a half dozen times a year but haven't been back in about 2 years now. I miss the 15 days in Spring and another 15 in Fall when the weather is sooo nice.
Anyway, I love Chicago and am VERY glad to have had my formative years there instead of here. But... as an adult, boy I sure am glad I live here and am able to come "home" at my liking.
Where do you live?
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Grew up in Northbrook.
My kids went to GBS, conference archrivals.
Went to Loyola Academy and watched NT #2 being built. So I may be older than you.
Drew up a list of pros and cons once on Chi vs LA & SF (where I used to go on business all the time). Amazingly, each list was the same length.
Today is one of those days by the way. Gorgeous.
Grew up in Northbrook.
My kids went to GBS, conference archrivals.
Went to Loyola Academy and watched NT #2 being built. So I may be older than you.
Drew up a list of pros and cons once on Chi vs LA & SF (where I used to go on business all the time). Amazingly, each list was the same length.
Today is one of those days by the way. Gorgeous.
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Hah I went to St Ignatius for HS. But Im quite positive Im younger Loyola was all boy when you went there Im pretty positive. I grew up living on Lake Shore Drive basically. So I'm a city boy through and through
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Ah yes Mike,
Ha, ex neighbors... go figure. I am 52... damn it.
I know of those days Mike. On my last trip, Jan and I sat on Glencoe beach... and you know I was going to describe how great it was but realized I would just about be writing a novel. It was unbelievable, fall with the leaves on the lake shore, sun out, clouds in sky for drama and effect, nice breeze off lake. Dogs running on the beach, children playing, sailboats on the water... god it was really heaven. One of those moments you wish would last forever. I just didn't want to get up off the sand, it was warm along with the sun but the cool breeze made it PERFECT. Anyway, don't want to wax poetic but I know what you mean Mike.
Enjoy it and get off the computer and get out there.
Ha, ex neighbors... go figure. I am 52... damn it.
I know of those days Mike. On my last trip, Jan and I sat on Glencoe beach... and you know I was going to describe how great it was but realized I would just about be writing a novel. It was unbelievable, fall with the leaves on the lake shore, sun out, clouds in sky for drama and effect, nice breeze off lake. Dogs running on the beach, children playing, sailboats on the water... god it was really heaven. One of those moments you wish would last forever. I just didn't want to get up off the sand, it was warm along with the sun but the cool breeze made it PERFECT. Anyway, don't want to wax poetic but I know what you mean Mike.
Enjoy it and get off the computer and get out there.
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I am a bit late in this one but I reckon this little puppy is a real Porsche as are the rest of the 996 stable.
When you see it next year Mike at Le Mans it will be a full blown SP 700R up from when I got it when it was a SP 650. My daughter will be driving the 964 C4.
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When you see it next year Mike at Le Mans it will be a full blown SP 700R up from when I got it when it was a SP 650. My daughter will be driving the 964 C4.
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There was a point I forgot to mention. Somebody suggested that the Japanese came in for the 993 line improvements. They actually came in in 1990/91 and their suggestions were incorporated as much as they could be on the 964 line. Further improvements were made to the 993 line but the first line to benefit fully from their advice was the Boxster.
One of the first improvements introduced was the reduction of suppliers. In 1989 Porsche had over 950 suppliers. This was gradually reduced to arround 350 by the start of the 993 line. It has been reduced even further since.
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Adrian
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In these picture how many real Porsches do people see? (Tongue firmly planted in cheek by the way).
One of the first improvements introduced was the reduction of suppliers. In 1989 Porsche had over 950 suppliers. This was gradually reduced to arround 350 by the start of the 993 line. It has been reduced even further since.
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In these picture how many real Porsches do people see? (Tongue firmly planted in cheek by the way).
Last edited by Adrian; 10-04-2004 at 04:56 AM.