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Old May 15, 2020 | 04:32 PM
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ATSR- It seems you have a 2 wd car. If so, you have another option for a ssk- Rothsport. Jeff' Gamroth's ssk is only for 2 wd, has more direct linkage than Darin's.
I'm not ragging on FD or Darin- in fact I have an FD ssk, GR, Fister III exhaust. He and Rothsport are collaborators.
Your choices...
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Old May 16, 2020 | 07:45 AM
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ATSR- It seems you have a 2 wd car. If so, you have another option for a ssk- Rothsport. Jeff' Gamroth's ssk is only for 2 wd, has more direct linkage than Darin's.
I'm not ragging on FD or Darin- in fact I have an FD ssk, GR, Fister III exhaust. He and Rothsport are collaborators.
Your choices...
Thanks for the recommendation fsa, I will look into that one too
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Old May 16, 2020 | 08:43 AM
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Old May 16, 2020 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ATSR
Could you please let me know what is the difference between the short shift kit from FVD Brombacher and the one from FD Motorsports?

https://www.fvd.net/us-en/FVDSK5/short-shift-kit-964-993-40-throw-reduction.html

https://fdmotorsports.net/shop?olsPa...hort-shift-kit

Thanks!

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The FVD one is the OE ssk. The FDM one uses those parts and slightly modified to replace the stock forward rod that has plastic bushings with a tie rod with heim joints to make the shifting feel more "direct". The shifter on the right is a FDM unit. Left is the stock one.



I recently picked up a rothsport one from a fellow rennlister and is quite nice. Solid machined aluminum and has similar design to replace the forward rod with a tie rod with heim joints.

Overall either the rothsport or fdm are great options as it is plug and play... If you go the stock RS route, you should at least replace the plastic bushings in that rod which are cheap replaceable parts.
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Old May 16, 2020 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by samurai_k
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The FVD one is the OE ssk. The FDM one uses those parts and slightly modified to replace the stock forward rod that has plastic bushings with a tie rod with heim joints to make the shifting feel more "direct". The shifter on the right is a FDM unit. Left is the stock one.



I recently picked up a rothsport one from a fellow rennlister and is quite nice. Solid machined aluminum and has similar design to replace the forward rod with a tie rod with heim joints.

Overall either the rothsport or fdm are great options as it is plug and play... If you go the stock RS route, you should at least replace the plastic bushings in that rod which are cheap replaceable parts.
Thank you very much for the detailed reply samurai_k, I really appreciate it

Do you think the rothsport is worth the extra money vs the fdm one? I had a Numeric Racing shifter on my previous 997.2 (link below for reference), and even though it was more expensive than the alternatives, it was worth every penny.

https://flat6motorsports.com/product...er-996-997-987



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my bad bro for the thread derail . Darins kit is on point .
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Originally Posted by ATSR
Thank you very much for the detailed reply samurai_k, I really appreciate it

Do you think the rothsport is worth the extra money vs the fdm one? I had a Numeric Racing shifter on my previous 997.2 (link below for reference), and even though it was more expensive than the alternatives, it was worth every penny.

https://flat6motorsports.com/product...er-996-997-987



I think the decision you make be based on what look you want. The rothsport is a combined shifter/shift ****/shift boot delete setup vs. the OE type/fdm one you still need a shift **** and boot. Also fdm recently did another version of their ssk where Darin replaced the shifter with a machined metal tube so you can put a shift ball like the 917 wooden ones that are popular now.

Make sure you get the goldenrod too.
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Originally Posted by samurai_k
I think the decision you make be based on what look you want. The rothsport is a combined shifter/shift ****/shift boot delete setup vs. the OE type/fdm one you still need a shift **** and boot. Also fdm recently did another version of their ssk where Darin replaced the shifter with a machined metal tube so you can put a shift ball like the 917 wooden ones that are popular now.

Make sure you get the goldenrod too.
I want to keep the OEM **** so I guess the FDM one it is. I’m definitely getting the golden rod as well and the RS motor mounts. I upgraded my 997 with the Rennline motor mounts (soft inserts) and loved the improvement in shifting and engine response.
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Old May 16, 2020 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by a.cooled
my bad bro for the thread derail . Darins kit is on point .
No worries, it brought more attention to the thread which has produced great responses by others.



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Originally Posted by ATSR
I want to keep the OEM **** so I guess the FDM one it is. I’m definitely getting the golden rod as well and the RS motor mounts. I upgraded my 997 with the Rennline motor mounts (soft inserts) and loved the improvement in shifting and engine response.
I am in the process of doing the same. Darin is sending me his new SSK in matte black with a forward rod, a golden rod, and RS motor mounts/hardware. I’m excited to remove slop from the shifting and tighten up the car with the motor mounts. I already know my fluid filled ones are blown.

One piece of advice regarding the motor mounts, which you might already know. Go with the genuine Porsche mounts not the URO ones.
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Old May 17, 2020 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by hootie
I am in the process of doing the same. Darin is sending me his new SSK in matte black with a forward rod, a golden rod, and RS motor mounts/hardware. I’m excited to remove slop from the shifting and tighten up the car with the motor mounts. I already know my fluid filled ones are blown.

One piece of advice regarding the motor mounts, which you might already know. Go with the genuine Porsche mounts not the URO ones.
Appreciate the advice hootie. I already had a bad experience with URO parts so I’m definitely not getting those.
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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 07:51 PM
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Sorry to hijack this thread but figured was the most recent one on topic of FDM SSK & GR. I’m considering this combo and wondering a few things that those who have had this installed recently may be able to answer. Does this change the height of the shifter if I’m using my existing one? If so, by how much? Others have commented on some threads that the SSK doesn't shorten the throws all that much. About how much shorter are the throws? Enough to notice a real difference? What are the bushings offered on the FDM site as an option when ordering the SSK & GR for (what do they replace)? I honestly don’t know if my car has a SSK in it now or not (doesn’t seem so) and previous owner I got the car from some 16 yrs ago had no records for me. I would imagine it’s all the original stuff but PO had done some nice upgrades I didn’t learn about until my mechanic or I found them while working on the car some years later. Not sure what we’ll find when it’s opened up to put in new stuff for the shifter. I thought a SSK might be a nice upgrade. I guess one last question is if it really qualifies as a “short shifter” to those know have experience with other products since that was my original goal. It may be its shifting crappy and I don’t even realize it because I have nothing to compare it to.
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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 09:28 PM
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Honestly, I didn’t read any of it. Short shift, nothing out there as nice as CEA. I love this thing.
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