Augdog1964

Hey all,

Looking at a RUF 1996 Carerra 4, low mileage...
She had a turbo installed, RUF interior treatment, RUF front and rear bumpers...

How much does that add in value to a period 993, or does it detract?

I've never looked at a RUF before, but am intrigued. I want to add a 993 to the stable.

Thanks!

Augdog1964

bbs993tt

You should ask for way more info. Where was the conversion done? Ruf factory? Does it have a Ruf VIN? Is it a BTR (single turbo) or Turbo R (twin turbo)?

Augdog1964

RUF did install the BTR turbo upgrade in 2001. The car was originally a North American spec 4S. It was converted in Germany by RUF when it had 17,116 miles.Not sure if its a twin turbo or not...

Kika

I believe the BTR conversion is single turbo. Arling at RStrada would definitely know for sure.

Augdog1964

Yes just confirmed, single turbo...

So what is the premium for a RUF or is there any?

bbs993tt

BTR is single, large turbo. Better be hanging on when the turbo spools up! No idea of the value but think that it was converted in Germany would add some vs. cars that were converted here.

gonzilla

I think Javier is selling (or maybe he sold it) his BTR that used to belong to Pong (CP).

Do you have any more details about the car? Is it this one by any chance?

Kika

Ruf mods are definitely going to add value, assuming everything has been maintained. Ruf is no fly-by-night operation, they are a highly respected company. Problem is they produce very low volume, so comparison data will be extremely sparse. Ruf owners tend to be a highly meticulous bunch, with loads of cash, in the realm of "money is no object". Ruf is one of those vehicles I dream about owning someday if I ever win the lottery.

Javier's previous car was one of those examples, simply a gorgeous well put together machine. see post #61 in the Official Black 993 Thread!!

There are basically 2 types of Ruf cars, those that were built entirely by Ruf from the ground up, and those that were originally purchased by private owners, and later converted by authorized Ruf mechanics. (they would send over installer(s) from Germany, and/or you could use a Ruf distributor. There used to be one in Dallas, which I think is now defunct. I believe RStrada is an authorized distributor, in North America. I am not sure if there are others.

bbs993tt

True, the Dallas location no longer has a deal with Ruf. IIRC, the next place to have an agreement with Ruf was in Michigan but I have no idea who they are.

Rstrada

Thanks Kika.

Augdog1964,

Feel free to reach out if we can assist in any way. Documentation is just as important as the condition of the car. We have seen many examples of them. some are nice some are rougher than others. While Kika is correct on the main difference in general, I'd like to add the importance of period-correct authentic RUF-supplied components. Our definition of a complete RUF car doesn't need to have a RUF vin, as long as the modification or conversion is true to the specific model.

chsu74

The BTR performs like a 964 3.6T(ie. with turbo lag) with improved 993 suspension design so it handles better at a lower price point. Probably will not depreciate as long as it is verified as a legitimate RUF car.

Nurburger

Given my experiences with the past two RUF USA custodians, Rstrada certainly seem to have their **** together... Detroit was a joke.

Kika

at the risk of deviating from the original thread, I have been taking my car to RStrada for a few years now, and they absolutely are a top notch operation. Top notch mechanic in Dan K, and honest, no BS with Arling. Entire staff are car enthusiasts, they LOVE what they do, Porsches are their passion, and it is reflected in the work they do and how they do it.

We in LA are truly fortunate to have a number of great Porsche mechanics locally. To the OP, if you want info on Ruf, I highly recommend reaching out to Arling at RStrada, he knows his stuff. (I have been at the shop when Alois Ruf himself has called Arling)