Car dies when I take my foot of the clutch - Help!
#1
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Car dies when I take my foot of the clutch - Help!
Hello,
About three weeks ago I removed the AC compressor belt from my 993 and about a week later I unhooked some power cables for accessories from the battery that previous owners installed. The car than sat for about a week after that. Yesterday I charged the battery and tried to take it for a drive. When I start it up it idols fine but when I take my foot off the clutch while driving it dies. I restarts just fine but once I take my foot halfway off the clutch it dies again.
What could be causing this?
About three weeks ago I removed the AC compressor belt from my 993 and about a week later I unhooked some power cables for accessories from the battery that previous owners installed. The car than sat for about a week after that. Yesterday I charged the battery and tried to take it for a drive. When I start it up it idols fine but when I take my foot off the clutch while driving it dies. I restarts just fine but once I take my foot halfway off the clutch it dies again.
What could be causing this?
Last edited by ARC Driver; 02-04-2019 at 01:26 PM.
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To my limited knowledge, the only thing electrical affecting clutch operation is the clutch microswitch in the pedal cluster. You may be able to start the vehicle with the clutch depressed but it might be shorting out when you try to raise the pedal. However, I always thought that, once a signal was received that the clutch is depressed, the car starts and microswitch is no longer in the circuit. I would remove the wooden floorboard and have a look. There's a thread about by-passing the microswitch which many of us have done. (See note#4 in the recent thread here: https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...-rebuild.html. It also refers to other threads on the same subject.)
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To my limited knowledge, the only thing electrical affecting clutch operation is the clutch microswitch in the pedal cluster. You may be able to start the vehicle with the clutch depressed but it might be shorting out when you try to raise the pedal. However, I always thought that, once a signal was received that the clutch is depressed, the car starts and microswitch is no longer in the circuit. I would remove the wooden floorboard and have a look. There's a thread about by-passing the microswitch which many of us have done. (See note#4 in the recent thread here: https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...-rebuild.html. It also refers to other threads on the same subject.)
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I would purchase one of those $4 volt meters that plug into the cigarette lighter socket and observe the voltage. It should be 13.5 to 14.5 volts with the car running and over 12.5 volts with the engine just turned off.
If a short in the peddle cluster is serious enough to shut down the DME and stall the engine the meter should clearly show a sudden voltage drop well below 12 volts.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LED...Vg24:rk:9:pf:0
If you are speaking of it stalling at the clutch engagement point in the peddle's travel something causing low torque at idle or just off idle may be your issue.
Andy
If a short in the peddle cluster is serious enough to shut down the DME and stall the engine the meter should clearly show a sudden voltage drop well below 12 volts.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LED...Vg24:rk:9:pf:0
If you are speaking of it stalling at the clutch engagement point in the peddle's travel something causing low torque at idle or just off idle may be your issue.
Andy
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That one I hooked back up. The rest appear to be associated with an amp, speakers, and a charge cable and microphone that were installed in the cabin.
That black cable for the alarm is the only thing I have I have hooked up to the battery other than the neg and pos terminal clamps. Does that sound correct?
That black cable for the alarm is the only thing I have I have hooked up to the battery other than the neg and pos terminal clamps. Does that sound correct?
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That black cable for the alarm is the only thing I have I have hooked up to the battery other than the neg and pos terminal clamps. Does that sound correct?
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I would purchase one of those $4 volt meters that plug into the cigarette lighter socket and observe the voltage. It should be 13.5 to 14.5 volts with the car running and over 12.5 volts with the engine just turned off.
If a short in the peddle cluster is serious enough to shut down the DME and stall the engine the meter should clearly show a sudden voltage drop well below 12 volts.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LED...Vg24:rk:9:pf:0
If you are speaking of it stalling at the clutch engagement point in the peddle's travel something causing low torque at idle or just off idle may be your issue.
Andy
If a short in the peddle cluster is serious enough to shut down the DME and stall the engine the meter should clearly show a sudden voltage drop well below 12 volts.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LED...Vg24:rk:9:pf:0
If you are speaking of it stalling at the clutch engagement point in the peddle's travel something causing low torque at idle or just off idle may be your issue.
Andy
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Does this sound like it could be a fuel pump issue? I feel like the issue wouldn't be related to removing accessory cables or the ac compressor belt, even though I wasn't having the problem before.
Would letting the car idle for a while help to sort things out?
Would letting the car idle for a while help to sort things out?
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That black cable for the alarm is the only thing I have I have hooked up to the battery other than the neg and pos terminal clamps. Does that sound correct?
I'm just saying that if the previous owner or installer knew his electronics, he may have wired it with a relay so that it does start as it should and does, but cuts out when the clutch is released.
Your car must be a 1996 or newer unless the installer modified it.
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But it could be a DME issue. I have seen enough of these with terrible solder joints. If the solder joint heats up, its enough to break the circuit.
Kind of coincidental that it would fail during your electrical clean up.
Kind of coincidental that it would fail during your electrical clean up.
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I don't know, not being there to diagnose.
I'm just saying that if the previous owner or installer knew his electronics, he may have wired it with a relay so that it does start as it should and does, but cuts out when the clutch is released.
Your car must be a 1996 or newer unless the installer modified it.
I'm just saying that if the previous owner or installer knew his electronics, he may have wired it with a relay so that it does start as it should and does, but cuts out when the clutch is released.
Your car must be a 1996 or newer unless the installer modified it.