993 Porsche dealer clutch replacement
#35
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I had a clutch job done at a local indy a month ago. The clutch kit was bought in a group buy for $350 from JBS Racing. The flywheel, fork and new bolts were OEM. Total cost was $4K and yes, engine drop was not needed. This was the second clutch on my car but the flywheels was original at 98K miles.
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#37
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Yes! If you have the time, space and patience to do it for sure! I wouldn't say this would be one of the easier DIY's to do however. I've done it both ways too, and it was kind of a PITA with the engine still in. And I have a lift in my garage! I can't believe people do this on jack stands with the engine still in. I tip my hat to you DIY warriors who do! I would spend the time and little more money (alignment adds $250) to remove it as a unit if doing it off of stands. Plenty of online tips and helpful people on RL to walk you through it too. Considerations would be space, tools and if you have somewhat mechanical aptitude or someone who is willing to help you that does. Dealers...god don't get me started. My local tried to ding me for almost a $1K for an alignment after I got everything back together a few months back. Ugh no, bend some other sucker over I politely told them-well maybe it wasn't the MOST polite way but they didn't get my money nor will they ever again.
#38
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
Okay, So I have even more exciting news! The convertible top intermittently won't go up and down sometimes. I thought it was a fuse, they are telling me the cables broke inside the drivetrain of the convertible top and it will cost me $4,050 to fix it (2k for parts alone).
I mean....what is wrong with these people and does anyone know of this issue? for a 1996 Carrera Cabriolet once again. This has to be criminal pricing, I should file a robbery claim with the local police hahaha
Also, any reccs on a shop in the Santa Monica/LA area?
I mean....what is wrong with these people and does anyone know of this issue? for a 1996 Carrera Cabriolet once again. This has to be criminal pricing, I should file a robbery claim with the local police hahaha
Also, any reccs on a shop in the Santa Monica/LA area?
Unfortunately not too many places that really know how to fix these tops....
I replaced the top latch motors twice with rebuilt latch motors from Vertex who are great supplier, for 200-400 dollars each over the years where new ones cost 1200 dollars each so I could have spent $2k more...
After all of this I have to apply pressure with my hand on the left corner of the roof for it to unlatch as I hold the opening button - but it works!!! I don't want to even have anyone look at it to make it work 100% right..
#39
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These 993 cab tops are so expensive to fix with anything you touch with them...I have spent $6,500 with repairs and a new top albeit over 20 years - $300 a year - but it always is a ticking time bomb...my Indy shortened the cables to help prevent the top from rolling up unevenly where you get into the big problems....i broke my rear roof bow that raises the top from the rear...it is a $5-7k part used to new part...my guy fixed it for 1.5k.....which still was $$...
Unfortunately not too many places that really know how to fix these tops....
I replaced the top latch motors twice with rebuilt latch motors from Vertex who are great supplier, for 200-400 dollars each over the years where new ones cost 1200 dollars each so I could have spent $2k more...
After all of this I have to apply pressure with my hand on the left corner of the roof for it to unlatch as I hold the opening button - but it works!!! I don't want to even have anyone look at it to make it work 100% right..
Unfortunately not too many places that really know how to fix these tops....
I replaced the top latch motors twice with rebuilt latch motors from Vertex who are great supplier, for 200-400 dollars each over the years where new ones cost 1200 dollars each so I could have spent $2k more...
After all of this I have to apply pressure with my hand on the left corner of the roof for it to unlatch as I hold the opening button - but it works!!! I don't want to even have anyone look at it to make it work 100% right..
You damaged your top frame because your "mechanic" shortened one of the drive cables. When a drive cable goes bad always replace both with new Porsche OEM cables and you must synchronize both cables. Failure to synchronize your cables results in your top opening unequally which damages the top, top frame, and stresses the drive motors.. Aftermarket cables are available but the convertible top/upolosterer advised me to buy the OEM Porsche factory cables. He has-been in business over sixty (60) years. I take his advice. For the cost difference, it isn't worth the risk. Further, I wouldn't take my car to Porsche for this type of work. They don't specialize in this type of work and they usually sublet to an upolostery shop of their choice.
Please read posts 22 and 23. There is nothing wrong with Porsche' convertibles. You just need someone reputable and you will no longer experience what you have written. It's not your car, it's your mechanic! Sorry for being direct. Bring your car to a specialty shop.
My car is almost twenty-four (24) years old. I have replaced one (1) convertible top, wear, and one (1) set of drive cables. Life expectancy on a convertible top is ten (10) years.
#40
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Originally Posted by Twilightblue28A
Please read my posts 22 and 23. I have owned my Cabriolet since new. Take to someone reputable who knows the convertible tops and you will not have the problems you're experiencing.
You damaged your top frame because your "mechanic" shortened one of the drive cables. When a drive cable goes bad always replace both with new Porsche OEM cables and you must synchronize both cables. Failure to synchronize your cables results in your top opening unequally which damages the top and the frame. Aftermarket cables are available but the autotop and upolosterer advised me to only buy the OEM Porsche factory cables. For the cost difference, it isn't worth the risk. Further, I wouldn't take my car to Porsche for this type of work. They don't specialize in this type of work and they usually sublet to an upolostery shop of their choice.
Please read posts 22 and 23. There is nothing wrong with Porsche' convertibles. You just need someone reputable and you will no longer experience what you have written. It's not your car, it's your mechanic! Sorry for being direct .bring it to the right shop.
You damaged your top frame because your "mechanic" shortened one of the drive cables. When a drive cable goes bad always replace both with new Porsche OEM cables and you must synchronize both cables. Failure to synchronize your cables results in your top opening unequally which damages the top and the frame. Aftermarket cables are available but the autotop and upolosterer advised me to only buy the OEM Porsche factory cables. For the cost difference, it isn't worth the risk. Further, I wouldn't take my car to Porsche for this type of work. They don't specialize in this type of work and they usually sublet to an upolostery shop of their choice.
Please read posts 22 and 23. There is nothing wrong with Porsche' convertibles. You just need someone reputable and you will no longer experience what you have written. It's not your car, it's your mechanic! Sorry for being direct .bring it to the right shop.
The Indy doing this in Atlanta does this work for Porsche corporate and he has found this adjustment to the cables as a prevention to any damage....the damage I had was a one time problem but earlier in ownership I did replace the cables with OEM so I was on my second pair when the damage was done....should have given more details.....
The manager at the PEC service garage of the Classic Center in Atlanta even admitted to me that these tips are not the greatest design on the 993 and if you check out 993 convertible topics on the forum, it is the consensus....
I know all about the synchronizing, the micro switches within the latch motors and the roof, the side motors, etc etc.....going to Manual usage, etc...
The design just sucks...weakness of the 993 cab.....in retrospect I would have been happier with a sunroof or Targa...993....other than the top the car has been stellar and still looks almost new....
#41
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The Porsche convertible top, drive cables, top frame, convertible top, and transmission work as one integrated system. Any deficiency in one affects .the entire system.
Regarding Porsche' Corporate fix, ask Porsche for the service bulletin.
We have had completely different experiences with a car manufactured by the same company. My position is this work must be performed by a specialist with a positive track record.
If you're not satisfied with the results on your car, look around and make a change.
Regarding Porsche' Corporate fix, ask Porsche for the service bulletin.
We have had completely different experiences with a car manufactured by the same company. My position is this work must be performed by a specialist with a positive track record.
If you're not satisfied with the results on your car, look around and make a change.
#42
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Certainly Bart, it is your preferred color after all. Might need snow tires this weekend though...car is supposed to be done this Friday. I was planning on driving down Monday morning to get it....Thanks for the recommendation, Dan is a good guy to talk to.
#43
I did mine a few years back and the cost was around $500. That included a new throw-out bearing, clutch disk, and clutch slave cylinder (Not really required, but I tore the boot). The pressure plate was good so I didn't replace it. In my case the clutch was serviceable and really didn't need replacing but it had a loud squeak. It turned out to be a throw-out bearing spacer washer. If you need a new pressure plate and flywheel, it's gonna be much more expensive than $500. As always, YMMV.