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Old 07-12-2018, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by murphyslaw1978


Correct. To be honest, HELOC interest deductions were always supposed to be used for home improvements, not buying fancy things. This was the intention over many decades, but the IRS had trouble tracking and enforcing this.
It's still hard to enforce this.
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^^ That’s what my accountant said too.

Example: I paid cash for my car, and my house needs a new roof. I could simply swap the two in order to be compliant or non-compliant with the law. Of course, if you take money from one bucket and put it in another bucket from the same overall pool (of wealth), then the obvious decision is to be compliant.
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So I researched all of the referred finance options and PenFed came in far and away the lowest at 3.4%
Old 10-19-2018, 07:25 PM
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Sorry for the bump. Yes, everyone seems to be in the 6.5% range for me and my credit score is over 800. I am trying PenFed as there listed rate is 3.99%. When applying for these online loans, does it help to include the wife as a "co-borrower" or just do it yourself? I guess it wouldn't hurt since she has great credit as well.

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Old 10-19-2018, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Wolfe
Sorry for the bump. Yes, everyone seems to be in the 6.5% range for me and my credit score is over 800. I am trying PenFed as there listed rate is 3.99%. When applying for these online loans, does it help to include the wife as a "co-borrower" or just do it yourself? I guess it wouldn't hurt since she has great credit as well.

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No upside to include her, only a downside if she’s held responsible for the loan as well as you. 3.99% doesn’t seem bad if it’s a static rate. Rates may be on the rise if it’s variable.
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Originally Posted by Greg Wolfe
Sorry for the bump. Yes, everyone seems to be in the 6.5% range for me and my credit score is over 800. I am trying PenFed as there listed rate is 3.99%. When applying for these online loans, does it help to include the wife as a "co-borrower" or just do it yourself? I guess it wouldn't hurt since she has great credit as well.

Mr. Wolfe
Try Lightstream first and XCEL FCU second, both of which should provide you with sub-4% rates for 60 mos. In Lightstream's case, it'll likely be without a lien. :-)

Depending upon the car XCEL may require an appraisal. PM me if so, as I found a great appraiser that's quick, thorough, cheap, AND acceptable to them.

XCEL advertises all over PCA's Panorama magazine. It's also a very small organization, so it's easy to speak with the loan officer or the loan administrator...or the woman who handles titles, etc. I even got a hand-written note from the VP thanking me for my business (and it was a real note, not auto generated or auto printed).

I like PenFed very much and have done many loans with them but they were not competitive the last time I inquired (it may have been the 20-plus year-old cars I was financing, which was no problem for XCEL or Lightstream).

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Why would Lightstream write a loan without a lien?
Old 10-21-2018, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Paolo1
Why would Lightstream write a loan without a lien?
Ask them; I've done it twice. First time was 1.49% for 36 mos....and I sold the car in less than a year and there was no requirement to payoff the loan. I checked the loan docs very thoroughly.

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Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU
Ask them; I've done it twice. First time was 1.49% for 60 mos....and I sold the car in less than a year and there was no requirement to payoff the loan. I checked the loan docs very thoroughly.
Interesting. You could deposit the cash from the sale into a CD and make money on the spread, although not much.
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Originally Posted by murphyslaw1978
Interesting. You could deposit the cash from the sale into a CD and make money on the spread, although not much.
No, not likely. The 1.49% rate was 2015, whereas recent rates were 3.65% (as of August).
Old 10-21-2018, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Paolo1
Why would Lightstream write a loan without a lien?
I also bought a car using Lightstream with no lien. It is essentially a personal loan with no collateral. I believe they did make me sign something stating I was going to use the loan to buy the car but they don't make you provide proof.
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Thanks for the help guys. As of now, I just received an email from PenFed congratulating me on the approval. I will call them tomorrow and check all of the conditions. By the way, this will be on a 1994 C4 widebody.

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Karen Sundstrom at Putnam, if you need her direct contact let me know
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Originally Posted by mootsvamootsrsl
Karen Sundstrom at Putnam, if you need her direct contact let me know
Rates, terms?
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Well guys, I decided to just go with PenFed. The experience has been pretty good. The rate is 3.99% @ 60 months which I think is decent being that most are going up at the moment. I probably could have found lower rates following up more advice from this thread. If anyone decides to use PenFed, here is a list of what you will need:

• Pictures of vehicle (front, rear, driver, passenger, engine, interior, odometer)
• Pictures of title (front and back)
• Seller needs to fill out an "Intent to Sell" form and sign it

Not too bad.

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