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My Softback Sport Seats from Waldemar have finally arrived
I haven't seen them yet, but couldn't contain my excitement. Pics to follow as soon as i get them unwrapped!
A few questions about the install:
1) any reason to replace the seat bolts with new ones or should i just reuse?
2) Are there torque specs for the seat bolts or just tighten by hand...i know they're soft and strip easy
3) is there a torque spec for the bolt on the seat belt receptacle? I'll be reusing this from my existing seats
4) i doubt it, but anything else to know when installing new seats?
1) any reason to replace the seat bolts with new ones or should i just reuse?
If not beat up you can reuse them.
I replaced them in my car with standard head height stainless steel socket head cap screws and they don't seem to interfere with the sliding track function. Stndard socket head cap screws have a deeper stronger socket in the head.
2) Are there torque specs for the seat bolts or just tighten by hand...i know they're soft and strip easy
It's German engineering so of course, there is a specification. Maybe someone can chime in with this info.
3) is there a torque spec for the bolt on the seat belt receptacle? I'll be reusing this from my existing seats
Yes, also
4) I doubt it, but anything else to know when installing new seats?
There are two mounting positions in the mounts the rails sit on. If you use the further back holes on the front of the rails and the same for the two bolts at the back of the tracks you will gain about an inch of additional leg room. On the driver side, not a big issue. On the passenger side helps for folks with long legs.
Avoid stripping the cap screw heads by running the electric seat height all the way up first. Put a couple drops of light oil on the socket head cap screws and let them sit over night. Use a fresh high-quality Allen wrench fully inserted and positioned squarely to the head to pop the cap screws loose.
Will be sure to post plenty of pics! Hope to get them unpacked in the next few days. Then a thorough carpet clean with the seats out before installing these. Patience is key
Will be sure to post plenty of pics! Hope to get them unpacked in the next few days. Then a thorough carpet clean with the seats out before installing these. Patience is key How's this for a tease?
Are you kidding? How can you leave them packed for "the next few days"??
If one goes with new hardware, I'd stick with original, not go with S/S.
In a wreck, there could be a difference between strength of presumably Grade 8 fasteners over s/s.
Originally Posted by pp000830
1) any reason to replace the seat bolts with new ones or should i just reuse?
If not beat up you can reuse them.
I replaced them in my car with standard head height stainless steel socket head cap screws and they don't seem to interfere with the sliding track function. Stndard socket head cap screws have a deeper stronger socket in the head.
2) Are there torque specs for the seat bolts or just tighten by hand...i know they're soft and strip easy
It's German engineering so of course, there is a specification. Maybe someone can chime in with this info.
3) is there a torque spec for the bolt on the seat belt receptacle? I'll be reusing this from my existing seats
Yes, also
4) I doubt it, but anything else to know when installing new seats?
There are two mounting positions in the mounts the rails sit on. If you use the further back holes on the front of the rails and the same for the two bolts at the back of the tracks you will gain about an inch of additional leg room. On the driver side, not a big issue. On the passenger side helps for folks with long legs.
Avoid stripping the cap screw heads by running the electric seat height all the way up first. Put a couple drops of light oil on the socket head cap screws and let them sit over night. Use a fresh high-quality Allen wrench fully inserted and positioned squarely to the head to pop the cap screws loose.
If one goes with new hardware, I'd stick with original, not go with S/S.
In a wreck, there could be a difference between strength of presumably Grade 8 fasteners over s/s.
Yeah, just ordered new oem bolts. Reusing the washers as I'm sure they're fine.
Originally Posted by gavonder
Are you kidding? How can you leave them packed for "the next few days"??
Rip em open!
It's killing me but they were delivered about 20 minutes before I was leaving for the weekend. Just enough to time bring them inside and snap that pic before I had to pack up the fam and leave.
Originally Posted by P-daddy
^Better yet, open boxes in stages one layer at a time
Yeah, just ordered new oem bolts. Reusing the washers as I'm sure they're fine.It's killing me but they were delivered about 20 minutes before I was leaving for the weekend. Just enough to time bring them inside and snap that pic before I had to pack up the fam and leave.Ha. Not sure I have that much patience.
More to come Sunday....
That's the way to do it! Altering material properties on critical fasteners where shear and elongation attributes are critical is usually not the best idea.
That's the way to do it! Altering material properties on critical fasteners where shear and elongation attributes are critical is usually not the best idea.
So you agree that it's fine to reuse the washers, right?
Washers are fine to reuse. Fasteners like these should always be replaced each time since they stretch on purpose. But if you re-install an already used bolt, it will excessively stretch to reach the required torque and can start yielding.
Oh, and the obligatory "Tease!". Excited to see these after the love/hate thread a few months ago.
07-21-2017, 01:57 PM
From Germany with Love...Waldemar Style
How's this for a tease? 
