limegreen

Thinc2

Feels just the opposite to me. Porsche is on fire - they understand their global customer demographic and are moving to a new design language that is consistent and will sell a ton of cars and SUVs. Even though I wish they would leave design separation between the 911 and the Panamera, the reality is they creating a new, modern style for their whole line of vehicles. I also think they are out ahead of most auto makers in terms of electrification and will release some highly competent and attractive vehicles in this segment.

I think the future looks amazingly bright for Porsche.

Needsdecaf

subshooter

....and weight

limegreen

DKST

HenryPcar

Porsche have a problem maintaining that Porsche mystique over all these years. How do you design a car that retains the original 911 shape for the last 50 years with new designs every year. I'm afraid it is running out of ideas and inspiration. It is getting to a point where Porsches are paranoid to deviate from its original 911 shape. Not like Ferraris or Lambos where every model start on a clean sheet of canvas with its unique bold, sexy, sassy, curves and shape that is refreshingly pleasant visually, while Porsche is stuck with its own success. We can't really blame Porsche for trying, and the current 992 is the result. How else can you be creative and refreshingly new after over 50 years of the same classic shape. Just how can you deviate from it and give us a new refreshing look ?

WhipE350

Well said. I do struggle with too much crossover from their other models, mainly with interiors. I know it saves costs. It's expensive to create new interiors that are unique just the 911. Though years ago when I got my 2013 Boxster I'll admit I liked it was pretty much like my buddies 2013 911. I would like a different experience when I go from a Panamera to a 911 though .

dkhm3

I wonder with the new 992 being e hybrid ready- will the non hybrid models be more heavy due to the reinforced chassis of the entire model line? I think the 991.2's gained weight from the 991.1 due to new turbo engines themselves. Any more weight from the 3300 lbs of the current 991.2's would not be welcome for a sports car.

Comparing the current hybrid nsx at almost 3,900 lbs- I hope Porsche doesn't make the 911 pigs.

mb1

"On the fence... still HATE the console, no handbrake, and electrical steering, and all the other GT/Panamera stuff added to 991. As of today, my next P-car would be a GT3 with rear seats added! As for 991, I have to drive one, see it on track and maybe get over the GT interior to maybe jump from 997 to 991."

That's a quote from a Rennlister from November 2011. Sound familiar? The more things change, the more they remain the same.

ipse dixit

LOL. How else would one define success for a publicly traded company?

worf928

DY369

Marginal profitability? I thought it was just reported that Porsche came in second place (behind Ferrari) in terms of profit per car sold.

Ccpecot

worf928

Correct. The term "marginal" in this context is the profit on the last unit. I should have written "average marginal profit" which would be the same as average profit per car. It is better in this context to use average profit-per-car and not (just) marginal profit. If the former is less than zero you're probably loosing money. But, if the latter is above zero then you may be able to make it up with more volume (next year) even if the former is negative.