2020 NEXT GENERATION 992 SPY PICS & RELEASE
02-21-2018, 09:33 AM
#1186
As an enthusiast, Walliser's words mean a lot more to me, as he represents the artists of the brand (engineers). Blume is the CEO. He'll speak whatever marketing jargon (carried out by communications employees) to ensure everything newer is better, no questions. He also says Porsche's future is electrified. Yes, it's the truth, but he's certainly not speaking for enthusiasts of visceral behavior and driving dynamics.
http://www.thedrive.com/news/18572/p...long-as-we-can
http://www.thedrive.com/news/18572/p...long-as-we-can
I guess I'm not an enthusiast and don't like how that term is used in general - but I am a repeat buyer of Porsche sports cars (and other higher end cars) and my vehicles see all sorts of genuine competition on a twice monthly basis.
However, I wont be a repeat buyer if they don't make cars that don't provide an exhilarating driving experience which means integrated handling, braking and acceleration. Its that simple.
I don't deign to tell others what an enthusiast is or isn't, I don't deign to tell others what they should or shouldn't like in a sports car. However, I am more than happy to say I like the direction Porsche is going in and applaud them for it. As most of us know their cars keep on getting better but at the end of the day there are limits to certain types of technology and what the technology can deliver.
No one can change that.
Which bring us back to the 992.
02-21-2018, 09:40 AM
#1187
Race Car
SAAB first introduced the 2.0T B202 Inline 4 in 1984. It produced 175hp. It would later also be the first balance shafted turbo 4. They did it for the fuel economy, emissions, weight savings and power. Sound Familiar?? SAAB may be dead, but their Swedish legacy definitely lives on. It’s not like the world went Ferrari V12 or Porsche Flat-6 (as awesome as those engines are), they went SAAB. 34 years ahead of their time. Truly impressive.
02-21-2018, 09:48 AM
#1188
02-21-2018, 09:58 AM
#1189
Race Car
135 hp from 2.0 = 67.5 hp/liter
My incoming GTS... 450 hp from 3.0 = 150 hp/liter
WOW.
Oh and the rotors on my incoming GTS are larger than the wheels were on that '82 Saab 900 Turbo!
(Assuming I didn't dork up the basic math there hahaha!)
Sorry for the hijack...the Saab reference got me getting all nostalgic there for a second.
02-21-2018, 10:03 AM
#1190
I was never a big SAAB fan, but I wish someone kept them alive. We could use all the oddball/quirky cars we can get in this homogenized day and age. And SAAB was definitely “off kilter” in many ways.
Thought their last cars were too “GMblandized,” the last 9-5 was a cool sedan that probably can be had for a pretty decent price now. Unless there are enough SAAB enthusiats who will prop the price up.
Thought their last cars were too “GMblandized,” the last 9-5 was a cool sedan that probably can be had for a pretty decent price now. Unless there are enough SAAB enthusiats who will prop the price up.
02-21-2018, 10:12 AM
#1191
I was never a big SAAB fan, but I wish someone kept them alive. We could use all the oddball/quirky cars we can get in this homogenized day and age. And SAAB was definitely “off kilter” in many ways.
Thought their last cars were too “GMblandized,” the last 9-5 was a cool sedan that probably can be had for a pretty decent price now. Unless there are enough SAAB enthusiats who will prop the price up.
Thought their last cars were too “GMblandized,” the last 9-5 was a cool sedan that probably can be had for a pretty decent price now. Unless there are enough SAAB enthusiats who will prop the price up.
02-21-2018, 10:12 AM
#1192
Race Car
I was never a big SAAB fan, but I wish someone kept them alive. We could use all the oddball/quirky cars we can get in this homogenized day and age. And SAAB was definitely “off kilter” in many ways.
Thought their last cars were too “GMblandized,” the last 9-5 was a cool sedan that probably can be had for a pretty decent price now. Unless there are enough SAAB enthusiats who will prop the price up.
Thought their last cars were too “GMblandized,” the last 9-5 was a cool sedan that probably can be had for a pretty decent price now. Unless there are enough SAAB enthusiats who will prop the price up.
In the 80s, they were so unique. Front wheel drive, turbocharged, very safe cars, good fuel economy for the day, innovative in many ways, and very roomy and comfortable inside - ton of room under the hatch and with the seats down. Ignition in the floor (quirky) but also had heated seats pretty early compared to other manufacturers. Dash layout had great ergonomics, driver focused. All the controls and buttons were designed to be used with cold weather gloves on (how Swedish!). Fishbowl windshield that dated back to '78. Turbos prone to fail, transmission/clutch not great, long term reliability wasn't great, though.
I always wished they had the money back then to make this a reality:
02-21-2018, 10:21 AM
#1194
Rennlist Member
02-21-2018, 11:52 PM
#1197
Rennlist Member
02-22-2018, 02:03 AM
#1198
Hard to believe I'm saying this on a 911 board (how times have changed), but Chevy showing that a "rudimentary" (read: characterful) naturally aspirated sedan-based coupe can show its fair share of true sports cars how its done (and I'm not just talking about "stat performance"), is something to behold. I can't say I got beef with the Camaro anymore (as I did back in the day, minus the glorious pre-80's iterations). It's an enticing package.
02-22-2018, 02:25 AM
#1199
RL Community Team
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Hard to believe I'm saying this on a 911 board (how times have changed), but Chevy showing that a "rudimentary" (read: characterful) naturally aspirated sedan-based coupe can show its fair share of true sports cars how its done (and I'm not just talking about "stat performance"), is something to behold. I can't say I got beef with the Camaro anymore (as I did back in the day, minus the glorious pre-80's iterations). It's an enticing package.
