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Old 07-05-2017, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by K-A
Well in their defenses, people have put their money where their mouths are.

Air cooled, certain 6 speed, certain N/A Porsche's have literally soared in value or been marked up hundreds of thousands of dollars simply because they're air cooled, 6 speed, or N/A, after new iterations launched without those elements.
Point taken. But those "people" are a very small sliver of the market. A niche of a niche. I have two NA air cooled 6 speeds that just sit. Nice to look at but not practical by any means...

For day to day duties I prefer the latest and greatest, fingerprints and all...
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Originally Posted by STG
That's what they said about the 718 and 991.2
screw you all. I'm getting a singer.
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when I get the money


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and my wife lets me after we get the money....
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by R_Rated
The problem with digital dashes is the accelerated obsoletecense. This will force accelerated refreshed and redesigns as digital technology is evolving at a perpetually increased pace that manufacturers will race to keep up with.

The jump from 991.1 to 991.2 infotainment systems; for example, will seem minuscule in comparison.
Yup. Just like iPhones.
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:57 PM
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exactomundo. Just like iPhones...
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All this from Porsche who has a great history designing sports cars but terrible with electronic gadgets
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Yep and I've had the PCM stuck in rebooting over and over... bad enough when you're trying to navigate and get no map, wait till it's your speedometer and revs.
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@STG - A lot of car companies opening up shop here in Silicon Valley to help navigate this issue...
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Yep and I've had the PCM stuck in rebooting over and over... bad enough when you're trying to navigate and get no map, wait till it's your speedometer and revs.
You have a lemon. My PCM has never rebooted while driving.
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The 911 is like the Jeep Wrangler. Truly classic designs that only need to be slightly tweaked to stay fresh.
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Originally Posted by Flat6-996
The 911 is like the Jeep Wrangler. Truly classic designs that only need to be slightly tweaked to stay fresh.
Yes, but Porsche has from time (964) to time (996) lost it's way a bit. Let's hope the 992 is a step in the right direction.
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You have a lemon. My PCM has never rebooted while driving.
All early PCMs will go into reboot loops until they get an update...

Also you probably don't have 76k miles on yours.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Yes, but Porsche has from time (964) to time (996) lost it's way a bit. Let's hope the 992 is a step in the right direction.
The 964 is the hottest air cooled now.

I never liked it (ok maybe the 3.6 turbo) and the 996 was the equivalent of the first model year of a normal car times 10 and, minus the IMS, is actually a good car.

I think every bit of additional electronics is a liability. Then again I think vehicle design peaked with the 1959 Land Rover. And Porsche design in a 1971T and a 1995 993.
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I wish I bought a 964 years ago when it was the only "affordable" 911 behind the 996 (the only "cheap 911" that hasn't started to soar in value). Being air cooled solidified the fact that it'd become classic. Now, they're bye bye into the sky like the rest of them.
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I need to take a moment..........R_Rated.........we agree on something that is genuinely meaningful. I will toast you tonight!

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The giant Tach in the middle is on purpose. I can see it peripherally but can also feel when I need to shift if in manual mode. My speed is gauged more by just keeping up with traffic and being aware...
Originally Posted by R_Rated
The problem with digital dashes is the accelerated obsoletecense. This will force accelerated refreshed and redesigns as digital technology is evolving at a perpetually increased pace that manufacturers will race to keep up with.

The jump from 991.1 to 991.2 infotainment systems; for example, will seem minuscule in comparison.
Boom .........spot on
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Originally Posted by evilfij
The 964 is the hottest air cooled now.
Still one of the ugliest cars Porsche ever made, unless it's been heavily modified, ala Singer.
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