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Old 08-23-2018, 05:28 PM
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By the way, this is how modern Audis look like. Other than that they've got a tail light strip across the back and a similarly large infotainment display I can't make out anything looking remotely similar to the 992 mules, or even the Panamera.

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I really hope you’re joking when you say you can’t see any similarities between those cars and the new Porsches
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes View Post
I really hope you’re joking when you say you can’t see any similarities between those cars and the new Porsches
I find that the in the interior, the four rings of the Audi logo on the steering wheel don't look anything like the Porsche crest.
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Old 08-24-2018, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckbdc View Post
The buffeting is a caused by air entering the cabin (due to the inside air being at lower pressure than outside) and then being expelled (when the air reaches a volume great enough for the inside pressure to be higher than the outside pressure). The frequency and resonance mainly affect the human ear. You can mitigate it by changing the interior volume- by having a passenger, or by popping the rear of a sunroof. So I would posit laminar flow would be improved by stopping the buffeting- et that it is improved by the little edge on the AWE triangle. But I seriously doubt there is likely to be any noticeable differential resistance or fuel consumption in any case.

PS My Macan has the same problem: both front windows down is starts at around 40 mph.
Fuel economy is measured with windows up so Porsche does not need to care about windows down air resistance which means we get buffeting (you can drive a brick shaped car at 100mph and have zero buffeting issues).

The foils probably do add resistance. Swapping to ruf style mirrors on an early car makes something like a 10mph difference in top speed.
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Old 08-24-2018, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by STG View Post
By the way, all new Porsche, Audi, and VW model designs aren't smoothing out the lines. They're actually making them more crisp, boxy, with more defined creases in the lines. Quite the opposite of smoothing out the lines.
I didn't describe what I'm talking about right... the thought is that, when they make the cars more crisp, boxy, with more defined creases, but in the same way that other manufacturers are doing, it erases what makes them different. So they're smoothing out what makes the cars different across the board, even if that may mean making a particular car more angular, is what I was trying to say.
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Old 08-24-2018, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dewinator View Post


I didn't describe what I'm talking about right... the thought is that, when they make the cars more crisp, boxy, with more defined creases, but in the same way that other manufacturers are doing, it erases what makes them different. So they're smoothing out what makes the cars different across the board, even if that may mean making a particular car more angular, is what I was trying to say.
what did i just read?
still doesn't make sense
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Old 08-24-2018, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by innout View Post
what did i just read?
still doesn't make sense
A new camaro, 911, aston, audi, etc all look more similar to each other than the previous versions did.
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Old 08-24-2018, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dewinator View Post
A new camaro, 911, aston, audi, etc all look more similar to each other than the previous versions did.
Yes. I agree. The effect is most pronounced in the mass market ‘appliances’ where near everything in the same class across manufactures is almost identical except for minute differences in lights, markers or rear side-window shapes. The continuing ‘sheeplefication’ of everything...

Although the Porsche sports cars are still pretty different.
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Old 08-25-2018, 09:50 AM
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I believe so and I don't have an issue with auto as long as there is a proper twin/dual clutch gearbox. It's 2018 and manufacturers like AM still think it's acceptable to stick these dated slushboxes in their entire line of cars that average north of 200k MSRP...

I was hoping when they decided to put merc motors and electronics in their new models that they would also source the gearboxes from them as well. The new Vantage and AMG GT-S are basically siblings at this point but the AMG can be had for less money and with a proper gearbox. It makes no sense.

The only way I would buy the AM is with a manual which just isn't an option for me with my daily driving around west LA and my weekend canyon car will always have a Porsche badge
I expect we'll see a mid generation refresh with a duel clutch, though the latest ZF's are pretty seamless as well as smaller and lighter than a DCT. One benefit of the single clutch is the ease with which they can make a manual and the intention is to offer a manual of the Vantage.
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Old 08-25-2018, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes View Post
I really hope you’re joking when you say you can’t see any similarities between those cars and the new Porsches
I'm not and I find your claim that the 992 looks like an Audi ridiculous. But to each their own.
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Old 08-26-2018, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dewinator View Post


A new camaro, 911, aston, audi, etc all look more similar to each other than the previous versions did.
A new Camaro and a 911 look similar to each other?

Just what color is the sky in your world?
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Old 08-26-2018, 11:33 AM
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Maybe I'm crazy, but the 992 to me looks like a 991 with Lincoln rear taillights, squared off front and different door handles. While I'm not a huge fan, it's definitely not camaro, Aston or Audi.
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Old 08-26-2018, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dude174 View Post
Maybe I'm crazy, but the 992 to me looks like a 991 with Lincoln rear taillights, squared off front and different door handles. While I'm not a huge fan, it's definitely not camaro, Aaron or Audi.
You can't see the similarity???




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Old 08-26-2018, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
A new Camaro and a 911 look similar to each other?

Just what color is the sky in your world?
No the new Vantage looks like a love-child of the new camaro and the 992, not that they look like each other directly.
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Same old, same old.
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