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Old 08-14-2018, 04:20 AM
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I honestly have to say, to those of you about to spend well into the 100K's for a new 911, I'd recommend waiting for a 992. And this coming from someone who has gotten up close and personal with one in a dream. Yes, there is a lot not to like about it, namely for anything near sports car purists, but IMO seeing it for yourself to see if the pro's outweigh the cons would be beneficial. And yes, in some areas the looks are becoming homogenized and too cluttered/convoluted, but it vastly still looks like a 991.... with more convolution, a bit bigger/thicker, and a slightly shallower greenhouse (which I don't love, and starts to go against the 911's hallmark of a sports car that doesn't feel like a tanker).

Those of us with .1's who specifically want .1's due to the N/A powerplants, won't feel swayed, if anything probably cling to our cars tighter, as the 992 is a huge departure in ways going far past the .2. But if you're a .2 shopper, the 992 will simply be a boosted version of that powerplant, so in that respect it's only a positive for you.
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Old 08-14-2018, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mpeterec View Post
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Looks great - purposeful with clean lines. Looking forward to the reveal.
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Old 08-14-2018, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by K-A View Post
Those of us with .1's who specifically want .1's due to the N/A powerplants, won't feel swayed, if anything probably cling to our cars tighter, as the 992 is a huge departure in ways going far past the .2. But if you're a .2 shopper, the 992 will simply be a boosted version of that powerplant, so in that respect it's only a positive for you.
There will be plenty of positives - for example if they move to an 8 speed PDK the torque will be even more usable and the accelerative force ~ 5% greater than that delivered by the current line up. Also Porsche will have worked over the suspension, steering and brakes as they always do. Plenty to look forward to

They always move the game on and people will keep buying. Current gen owners will complain as always - its the Porsche way.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:14 AM
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Curious if the price of the new pdk will continue to go down and how shorter gears/more usable tq/better fuel economy will affect 6mt and 7mt sales. I think if the GT cars stay NA they will keep the 7 speed pdk. If they get turbos or batteries, the 8 sp is more robust and they might end up with it, but its too many gears IMO. Regardless of how the 992 looks all the little chassis and drivetrain changes are gonna make it drive noticeably better... but Im not a fan of the new styling cues yet. Its gonna take a couple years to recalibrate to what a 911 looks like. Hoping they make at least 1 more NA 4.0 gt3 before the party is over...
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by K-A View Post
I honestly have to say, to those of you about to spend well into the 100K's for a new 911, I'd recommend waiting for a 992. And this coming from someone who has gotten up close and personal with one in a dream. Yes, there is a lot not to like about it, namely for anything near sports car purists, but IMO seeing it for yourself to see if the pro's outweigh the cons would be beneficial. And yes, in some areas the looks are becoming homogenized and too cluttered/convoluted, but it vastly still looks like a 991.... with more convolution, a bit bigger/thicker, and a slightly shallower greenhouse (which I don't love, and starts to go against the 911's hallmark of a sports car that doesn't feel like a tanker).

Those of us with .1's who specifically want .1's due to the N/A powerplants, won't feel swayed, if anything probably cling to our cars tighter, as the 992 is a huge departure in ways going far past the .2. But if you're a .2 shopper, the 992 will simply be a boosted version of that powerplant, so in that respect it's only a positive for you.
If you want to order a new 911, rather than a lot car or used car, you can either order a 991.2 soon, b4 the 992s are available on the configurator & everything known about them, or wait to find out about all the 992 details, costs & options & then it is too late, can't order a new 991.2 anymore.
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:50 PM
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So much 959.
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Old 08-14-2018, 01:27 PM
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Is it just me or does it seem that, across all product lines except the GT cars, Porsche is reducing the vertical height of its front bumpers and adding more angle of attack up front. That front end looks way too shallow to me, same as the 718, which looks awful.
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Old 08-14-2018, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by innout View Post
That actually looks fantastic in white. And i'm sure the third brake light will be revised before the full reveal.
This sold me. I'm holding off on 991.

What model do you guys think that is?
Looks like a C2.

I am trying to decide whether to order another 991 or not.
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Old 08-14-2018, 01:42 PM
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The hip seems a little narrow for GTS, no?
I wish there was a higher res pic of the rear. I'm thinking the middle portion of the black strip will get narrower when finished.
i was just referring to the black accents on the exterior of a GTS ... looking at the front and back of the white 992, there is a lot of black. Am thinking, it will look pretty neat with black wheels especially with white and silver colors. Not sure about yellows 😁
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Old 08-14-2018, 01:54 PM
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The more i see this car, the more i love it! the door handles and side view mirrors look more sleek.

BTW I heard they will be using the same body style across the line up for "non-Tubro" cars, so there will no longer be wider hips on the 4s/gts. is this true?
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Old 08-14-2018, 02:51 PM
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We're nit-picking every design nuance of the new car, yet a normal person won't be able to tell this apart from a 997.
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Old 08-14-2018, 03:40 PM
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Those silver brakes on the white car have bigger discs than the red S brakes. Those would be the new PSCB? The white looks a lot like my 991.2, I like it.
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Old 08-14-2018, 05:29 PM
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Those silver brakes on the white car have bigger discs than the red S brakes. Those would be the new PSCB? The white looks a lot like my 991.2, I like it.
I think you're right about the new PSCB brake. I thought that I read somewhere a while that they would be an option on the 992. I included a pic of the PSCB on the new Cayenne.

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Old 08-14-2018, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SeymourButts View Post
We're nit-picking every design nuance of the new car, yet a normal person won't be able to tell this apart from a Mitsubishi Eclipse.
FTFY.
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes View Post
Is it just me or does it seem that, across all product lines except the GT cars, Porsche is reducing the vertical height of its front bumpers and adding more angle of attack up front. That front end looks way too shallow to me, same as the 718, which looks awful.
I really hate the new 718 front bumper and I was really hoping the 992 wouldn't share similar design elements. I'm still hopeful that something is missing here and this isn't the final front end. If it is... I'll be putting off my 992 purchase until the GTS comes along and hopefully offers something a little better.
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