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Old 02-19-2017, 10:55 AM
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Sure hope those sounds aren't from a 4-banger. Sounds pretty bad.
Thought the same sounds terrible.
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:02 AM
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It WON'T be a 4 banger. Will stay FLAT 6.
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:29 AM
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It WON'T be a 4 banger. Will stay FLAT 6.
There are at least two different black 911s in that video - look at plate numbers - and one sounds exactly - eXACTLty - like a 718 while the other sounds more flat-6-like.

But, if you keep on writing there will be no Bug Engines in the 911 and if you write it in all caps, and do it enough times then, hey, it might come true.

I see a lot of overlap in 'product marketing space' between the 350 hp Bug Engine and the 370 hp F6. Obviously there's a world of difference between the two, but the intelligence of the vast majority of car buyers has been reduced to a single number - HP - and "how well can I run my Apps on it?"
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:33 AM
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It doesn't seem like as much of a full overhaul as I would have expected. The wing cutouts from the quarter panel mean it's a new body and not just a bumper job like the midcycle refreshes, but where the full shape of the 997.1, 991.1, etc was new, this doesn't seem to the case here. I wonder if they're trying to save money after the dieselgate thing.
There haven't been many major overhauls of the basic 911 shape

I mean the basic shape was slowly evolved from 1964-1998. 996 was obviously a huge change and the 991 was a pretty significant increase in size.

I wouldn't expect Porsche to radically change the shape of the car so soon after radically changing it with the 991.
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by worf928
There are at least two different black 911s in that video - look at plate numbers - and one sounds exactly - eXACTLty - like a 718 while the other sounds more flat-6-like.

Probably Base model and S model.

The exhaust is still being worked on. These are "test mules".
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Old 02-19-2017, 12:26 PM
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I wonder if they're trying to save money after the dieselgate thing.
It has occured to me too.

Perhaps the 992 was scrapped in favor of a 991.3, which is:

- same 991 platform,
- same 991.2 engines plus a hybrid,
- a revised suspension,
- new interior and information systems.
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Old 02-19-2017, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by virage View Post
It has occured to me too.

Perhaps the 992 was scrapped in favor of a 991.3, which is:

- same 991 platform,
- same 991.2 engines plus a hybrid,
- a revised suspension,
- new interior and information systems.
Interior is what really needs updating. I'm guessing a Panamera type deal.


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Originally Posted by rk-d View Post
Interior is what really needs updating. I'm guessing a Panamera type deal.
Yes, of course: The final nail in the coffin of form follows function.
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Old 02-19-2017, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
Interior is what really needs updating. I'm guessing a Panamera type deal.


Sorry, that is plain fugly. Looks like something Benz or BMW would put out.

Is the 991 interior that "dated"??
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Old 02-19-2017, 01:34 PM
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I like the 991 interior - I am getting a '17 after all, so I will be stuck with it either way. That said, the interior has been unchanged for coming on 7 model years. It has aged well, but it's probably due for a change.

I'm torn on the Panamera console. I do think it looks kinda futuristic, but the fingerprints would drive me nuts. I can see why people would hate it.
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Old 02-19-2017, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dewinator
It doesn't seem like as much of a full overhaul as I would have expected. The wing cutouts from the quarter panel mean it's a new body and not just a bumper job like the midcycle refreshes, but where the full shape of the 997.1, 991.1, etc was new, this doesn't seem to the case here. I wonder if they're trying to save money after the dieselgate thing.



The 991 was only the THIRD platform change in the 911's entire history. Don't expect 997 > 991 changes with each generation. Isn't going to happen.
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Old 02-19-2017, 01:40 PM
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Interior is what really needs updating. I'm guessing a Panamera type deal.


I like the looks of that but would miss the tactile feeling of actual buttons - I don't want to have to look down at the center console to change a setting...
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Old 02-19-2017, 02:22 PM
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I like the looks of that but would miss the tactile feeling of actual buttons - I don't want to have to look down at the center console to change a setting...
This is precisely the problem. Touch interfaces require that you use your eyes and fingers in closed loop. Actual switches enable you to use only your fingers.

Of course, switches that all feel the same (981/991 center console) are only a little better than a touch interface. But, they don't require quite as much 'eye time' as a pure touch interface.
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↑↑↑

Automobile Magazine article on Acura's move from buttons v touch:

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Good article. My thoughts exactly. We are surely supposed to be looking at the road ahead basically all the time whilst driving aren't we?
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