Noah Fect

K-A

Haha, shorting that stock has been a fools errand for years. Despite Musk constantly hamfisting his own face, the stock still stays relatively strong. It won't be until Porsche and all the rest prove their EV competitors are a true threat to Tesla until the business is at risk. Right now, with Model 3's overflowing with orders and the Semi's, future sports car, etc. I don't see the floor truly breaking. But who knows. My use of them as a comparison is that they are, or were, the most valuable car brand by market cap in the world (or at least within U.S publicly traded companies).

I have taken a considerable liking to RACE, though. That's a perfect example of why high-cachet and exclusivity is the ideal business model, if you can be one of the extremely few who achieve it. Ferrari will always trade at a higher P/E than crap stocks like Ford and GM (which I also hold) as people know they can cash in on that massive intangible brand value at ANY time, and turn it tangible. Ferrari have decades of careful roadmaps to exploit (first SUV, maybe first sedan if they want, first this, first that) if they so choose. Sales-volume brands don't have that ability. Ford, GM, Toyota, etc. have long cashed in on their "everything for everyone all at the same time with no regard for branding" approach. Good for them, but it's just not as enticing in regards to product or investment.

Dan Nagy

It starting to grow on me.

Rennolazine

Oh wow. Tape is off. Is this photoshop or actual production booty? If latter, nice find

Dan Nagy

Dan Nagy

I like this purply blue, too. This hater is getting ready to eat crow.

erik_plus8

I think the exterior is getting there. The dealbreaker will be the interior. You know, the one you have to look at all the time when behind the wheel...

Thinc2

The one complication is that I believe it's the S models that are being released first. So a longer wait for those of us that want a base...

I agree that it looks good.

GiuseppeM

It's photoshopped, I found the one with tape here:

Archimedes

Like athlete's foot on me.

Thinc2

Wow - I am seriously vacillating between the 991.2 and the 992. Does anyone have thoughts on what will be released first - the base models (C2 and C4) or the S models (C2S and C4S)?

Any thoughts on when the C2 and C4 will be released if the S models debut?

dkhm3

Here's a render i found on you tube, looks pretty close.

dkhm3

Last 991.2 allocations are december, for late february delivery. I was told by my dealer, expect 992's to be possibly delivered around april, unless EPA or DOT emissions issues could delay a couple of months.

Usually C2 and C2S are first to be produced.

ipse dixit

Orders should open soon after the premier at the LA Auto Show in late November 2018.

Thinc2

Hmm - that's interesting. Anyone have any different information on what models would come out first?