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Old 06-13-2018, 07:44 PM
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"The new 911, which is claimed to offer a significant advance in structural engineering, introduces a newly developed platform that has been conceived to provide the basis for the third-generation Audi R8 and the successor to the Lamborghini Huracán."

I do not believe this is correct...perhaps for the next all-new generation of 911. I expect the 991>992 will be a jump similar to the 996>997...same platform/chassis and engines, with new bodywork and interior.
Old 06-13-2018, 08:00 PM
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Didnt the autocar article cited above describe the technical details of a new chassis structure that is being completely redesigned and fabricated by a third party for the VAG platforms? I believe it. Its gonna be light and stiff although the curb weight on the assembled vehicles will be similar or incrimentaly greater.... until they stick the batteries in... like 300-500kg
One of the articles cited before the one reference in the previous post
Old 06-13-2018, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dewinator


Good to hear that Porsche is finally listening to the enthusiasts and making the 911 bigger!

who are the "enthusiasts" wanting a bigger 911? I definitely not one of them and dont know any of them
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Originally Posted by dark knight
who are the "enthusiasts" wanting a bigger 911? I definitely not one of them and dont know any of them
I believe he was being sarcastic.
Old 06-13-2018, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Guest89
Wait and see! There are always those who claim that THEIR 911 is the last true 911 blah blah.

The next one will be great, and some of the same chicken littles quoted above will be buying 992s if they can afford it.
No generational change of the 911 has ever had that high a repeat buy and there are a huge number of 991.1 owners that will have no interest in the 992.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes

No generational change of the 911 has ever had that high a repeat buy and there are a huge number of 991.1 owners that will have no interest in the 992.
Is that because they just aren't ready to buy another car since their 991.1 is still pretty young? If they want to buy a new car, what is their alternative in the current market?

There aren't a lot of cars that inspire me other than the McLaren (which is a lot more) and the 4C (ducking) but the reliability on that car would be a big problem I think.
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
"The new 911, which is claimed to offer a significant advance in structural engineering, introduces a newly developed platform that has been conceived to provide the basis for the third-generation Audi R8 and the successor to the Lamborghini Huracán."

I do not believe this is correct...perhaps for the next all-new generation of 911. I expect the 991>992 will be a jump similar to the 996>997...same platform/chassis and engines, with new bodywork and interior.
It’s definitely gotta be a new platform. Engine is moved further middle, and length and likely wheelbase has changed.

Originally Posted by Guest89
Wait and see! There are always those who claim that THEIR 911 is the last true 911 blah blah.

The next one will be great, and some of the same chicken littles quoted above will be buying 992s if they can afford it.
Lol. Keep dreaming.

Most/many 991.1ers own the car note, and our N/A’s are holding value exceptionally. Won’t be hard to follow your lead and lease/rent a 992.
Old 06-13-2018, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by subshooter
Is that because they just aren't ready to buy another car since their 991.1 is still pretty young? If they want to buy a new car, what is their alternative in the current market?
k.
My point is as that no car has that kind of repeat rate, particularly one as polarizing as the new turbo 911s. After my 78 I had zero interest again until the 993 and then zero interest again until the 991.1. I have less than zero interest in the 992 and I’m not alone in that. I’m also sure that there will be other buyers that like it and there will be new customers as well, and they’ll sell every one of them. BMW lost me when Chris Bangle arrived and started building clown cars, yet they brought in new customers and sales increased.

i don’t doubt the 992 will do great, but the idea that 90 percent of 991 owners are going to buy one is laughable.
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Originally Posted by K-A


It’s definitely gotta be a new platform. Engine is moved further middle, and length and likely wheelbase has changed.



Lol. Keep dreaming.

Most/many 991.1ers own the car note, and our N/A’s are holding value exceptionally. Won’t be hard to follow your lead and lease/rent a 992.
Hopefully the 992 retains the rear engine personality we all covet, even if it's under a particularly thick layer of computers.

As for the 991.2, the appeal of the .1 should drive the price of lightly used .2s down, which is good for those who want a daily driver.
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Originally Posted by Argon_
I believe he was being sarcastic.

ahh I get it now thanks!
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Originally Posted by K-A
It’s definitely gotta be a new platform. Engine is moved further middle, and length and likely wheelbase has changed.
Why does it “gotta be”?

Not only does it make no sense for a relatively small production vehicle to have an all-new platform after 6 model years, but it is far too soon for a Huracan replacement (only 4 model years in), and supposedly there will not be a successor to the current R8.

If it’s “gotta be” for future hybridization, remember the 991 was supposedly designed for it, even if it was not implemented.
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Looks like changes just for the sake of changes. I'm sure they have a lot of jobs at stake that have to be justified and if they don't change a million things just to say they did, some little empires will crumble. Publish or perish isn't just for psych/pharma researchers anymore I guess.

If they were really smart they'd offer "tech delete" options and even bring back the NA with carbon tributes payable in "offsets" 10 times the efficiency loss. It would be WAY greener that way than the slight savings from the vacuum cleaner engines. Who could argue with that?
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Originally Posted by StudGarden
Looks like changes just for the sake of changes. I'm sure they have a lot of jobs at stake that have to be justified and if they don't change a million things just to say they did, some little empires will crumble. Publish or perish isn't just for psych/pharma researchers anymore I guess.

If they were really smart they'd offer "tech delete" options and even bring back the NA with carbon tributes payable in "offsets" 10 times the efficiency loss. It would be WAY greener that way than the slight savings from the vacuum cleaner engines. Who could argue with that?
The whole brand would see a return to (available) purity by $0 tech delete options, sound deadening delete, carpet delete, etc. Also a NVH package: solid engine and trans mounts, rose jointed suspension, sound deadening 50% reduction.

At least give us the option to configure a pure car.
Old 06-20-2018, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Argon_
At least give us the option to configure a pure car.
(1) Cayman (GT4)
(2) Exige
(3) Caterham

Plenty of choices out there

The 992 is looking like a modern GT style sports car - it will appeal to that type of buyer, they will be looking for a sophisticated, polished, fast super cruiser. In some markets these cars cost double to triple the prices in the US - it isn't hard to see why people paying that sort of coin want more from an interior compared to budget markets like the US, in this regard I think Porsche knows its market very well.

The 992 looks almost identical to the 991.2 - its hard to imagine the chassis is radically different.

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The interior will definitely please those looking for a techy GT cruiser. It makes the 991 interior look raw and analogue in comparison. All those “the 991 is a GT car and too luxurious compared to previous 911’s” will start to subside, as its interior will likely feel more 997 than it does 992.


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