vintage38

Thanks for the heads up. Do you know if Base 911's include Base 911 Cabriolets. I'm hoping to snag a allocation for one.

VarTheVar

If anyone wants an allocation for a GTS,

https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1356...llocation.html

gellie

Just out of courtesy, how does a broker get an allocation that they can sell at MSRP? Did someone back out and sell MC motor cars the slot for a decent discount?

VarTheVar

No idea how the business model works tbh

Motorin Mark

Just another reason I was ok with paying ADM for my S.....Ordered mine in Oct of 22' and my dealer has not got another S allocation since mine.

Billy Bluejay

Car companies are very good at not giving consumer 100% of what they want. I would have paid TTS money for a heritage interior GTS with manual.

uter

This sounds… fishy. Having lurked on RennList for years to read about ED, I’ve never come across this $5k charge to a dealer for ED. And, what the heck is an “ED configurator charge”? In my own discussion about a PTS Targa via ED, those fees have never come up. Maybe I’m just uneducated about these ED fees, so more information would be appreciated.

SS22

Posted this in another thread but interested what you all think here. Wondering if and to what extent a person who got a 23 with ADM is better off than someone who got a 24 with the same ADM? Or is it a wash because the 24 will have a higher resale value that is about the same as the MSRP increase.

My 2 cents:

While typically it’s true that an older model year depreciates more, I think when it comes to the ‘23 vs. ‘24 992, if they have the same mileage, they won’t be much different, certainly not the delta of the MSRP. For example, imagine in 2026 (when 992.2 is the latest model), a buyer looks at buying a certified 992.1 and has a choice of a 2023 with 10,000 miles or a 2024 with 10,000 miles. Assume, same options/spec. If the buyer is knowledgeable, they’ll know Porsche changed absolutely nothing for the 2024 model year. So except for potentially* 1 year extra of warranty, there’s nothing that’s different. Is it really reasonable for the buyer to pay $10k more to buy the 2024?!

*someone buying a late-cycle ‘23 will have almost the same warranty coverage as an early-cycle ‘24 buyer (this is true in my case as I expect to pick up my ‘23 this month).

johny221

I don’t disagree with you. Before I bought my GTS I was looking at 991.1 GT3s. There didn’t seem to be a large price discrepancy between the 2014-2016 models (even with the 10 year engine warranty ending sooner on 2014’s). The price really jumped up once you hit the 2018 991.2 GT3s.

Who knows if it will be the same on regular 992s but I don’t know why it would be any different. You’ll probably see the biggest price delta when the 992.2’s come out vs the years of 992.1’s.

But then again, people on bring a trailer seem to bid based off sticker price so who knows…

ttusqrl

Question for the group -- how long do you think 911s, especially TTS, sit on a dealer lot if they are CPO'd? I'm seeing longer lot times lately and it's an interesting data point. For instance, one TTS I looked at today was taken in and serviced by the selling dealer in May yet still hasn't sold.

Shambler

I think there is a bit of a land rush post allocation rounds. If a person gets tired, they start looking at overpriced CPO cars. I did...

TheGeneral

I received an "official allocation" in August of '22 for a C4 GTS cab (I got on the list in September '21) but had to take a European delivery to get it. If I didn't take it, the next person on the list (I was #1 at that time) would get it but I would retain my #1 status. The dealer (back then) paid something like $3500 for European delivery fees - but did not charge me. I paid MSRP plus the dealer gave me free (ha! "free"??) a trickle charger and clear side lights to replace the amber ones. They also discounted some extra things I added...prepaid maintenance & a wheel and tire package. Back then, for every ED the dealer "sold" they received an additional allocation of a 911 at an equivalent or less spec - which provided them an incentive to sell them. Evidently someone in our dealer's "region" cancelled their ED and the Porsche rep offered it to my dealer. My August '22 allocation became a completed car in December of '22 and the earliest time slot for the actual ED was April '23. I didn't want a ED but I wanted the car so I did the ED. I left on a Monday, got there Tuesday, toured the factory/saw the car/did museum tour/ate at the very nice Porsche restaurant on Wednesday and flew home on Thursday. I put an AirTag in the car and followed it all the way to Emden (took 2 days from Stuttgart) and then once it reached the port here (it did not transmit while on the boat). So although I paid MSRP (maybe slightly less if you calculate the "freebies"), I had to pay for a flight, a hotel for 1 night and a couple meals. A very small "ADM" in my book - if that. I guess Porsche has increased the ED fee to the dealer and now they charge the customer something too. I'd do it all again in a heartbeat. Next time I'd plan a vacation around it though....during the summer....not Oct-April.

Jeahbladejeah

Your costs were not in vain. That's a valuable memory not many get to experience. Doesn't feel very ADM to me.

minn19

My own data point, just sold/pre-traded (for something in the future) my 23 4 GTS back to the dealer for MSRP (175,640). I’m sure they’ll get in the 190s for it.

Shogunade

Just curious...if you wanna divulge...is it something set or just collecting a chip from the dealer? That may be something I'd be interested in considering.