S or 4S
#1
S or 4S
This is the year that I finally get to order my dream car. I’m so pumped to say the least. I live in the desert and so I don’t have to worry about driving in the snow, but how well does the S put the power down? Is there any rear slippage when punching it?
#2
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My (purely theoretical) understanding is that in dry conditions like yours the 4S is fractionally quicker from a dead stop (e.g. by 0.1 secs in the 0-60mph measure due to initial traction) and the 2S is as fast or quicker everywhere else (less weight). Porshe's 7min 25sec time at the Nurburgring was set with a C2S (with all the go-faster options) instead of the 4S as the 2S was the quicker car there. However I will say not many people could detect such small differences for normal road driving.
#3
Sounds like the positives out way the negatives (0.1 Sec 0-60 most likely isn’t even discernible). I would prefer to be able to kick the end out also, which would most likely be much more difficult, if even possible with a 4S. Thx!
#5
Burning Brakes
I have driven my 718 through 2 winters so far and don't really miss AWD - the biggest factor is a nice set of winter tires. Even with the option of getting AWD when I order mine, I'm still just getting a C2S because it's a more pure experience, less weight, and less money.
You'll have more fun with a C2S and save some money too
You'll have more fun with a C2S and save some money too
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Porsche makes this an easier decision now, since both have the wide-body and light bar.
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#8
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Haven’t driven either car, (I live in the tropics so have always had 2 wheel drive) but for what it’s worth regarding the 992, here’s an interesting comment on steering feel on 2S vs 4S from a respected reviewer. Forward to 4:04.
#9
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Here are some differences -
4S is more costly to purchase.
4S maintenence costs are higher
4S drivetrain repair costs will be higher, long term with its transfer case, extra driveshaft and differential, and axle shafts with U-joints.
4S is heavier
X4S consumes slightly more fuel and emits slightly more pollutants, in case you are a greenie
If living in the desert, i personally could not justify a 4S over a 2S. But everybody has different budget, priorities, and preferences. The choice is yours. It's a first world dilemma.
4S is more costly to purchase.
4S maintenence costs are higher
4S drivetrain repair costs will be higher, long term with its transfer case, extra driveshaft and differential, and axle shafts with U-joints.
4S is heavier
X4S consumes slightly more fuel and emits slightly more pollutants, in case you are a greenie
If living in the desert, i personally could not justify a 4S over a 2S. But everybody has different budget, priorities, and preferences. The choice is yours. It's a first world dilemma.
#11
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For driving in any area where it rains a lot I'd say it's worthwhile.
Don't ignore the ability to safety maneuver from hazards and incompetence during slippery conditions where having all-wheel-drive may be all the difference versus the rwd. The extra traction is noticeable as is the slightly different, some may call more authentic, feel of the rwd version, based on my daily use of both configurations in the past decade.
Obviously, it's a trade-off based on your needs and purposes! I'd say, for only dry conditions forgo it, but to daily, or for wet or inclement conditions the advantage is certainly with the all-wheel-drive.
Don't ignore the ability to safety maneuver from hazards and incompetence during slippery conditions where having all-wheel-drive may be all the difference versus the rwd. The extra traction is noticeable as is the slightly different, some may call more authentic, feel of the rwd version, based on my daily use of both configurations in the past decade.
Obviously, it's a trade-off based on your needs and purposes! I'd say, for only dry conditions forgo it, but to daily, or for wet or inclement conditions the advantage is certainly with the all-wheel-drive.
#12
Instructor
- Electronically variable active damping system with two manually selectable modes: "Normal" and "Sport"
- Ride height lowered 10 mm compared to standard
- Stiffer anti-roll bars (front and rear)
- Extended front spoiler lip
- Increased maximum rear spoiler height
#13
For me the decision was mostly esthetic... I thought it looked better with the 10mm lowered stance and the more aggressive front lip. (For reference GT3s are lowered 30mm compared to standard). PASM is standard on the S cars now, but choosing this “enhanced PASM” option gets you:
- Electronically variable active damping system with two manually selectable modes: "Normal" and "Sport"
- Ride height lowered 10 mm compared to standard
- Stiffer anti-roll bars (front and rear)
- Extended front spoiler lip
- Increased maximum rear spoiler height
#14
Three Wheelin'
I would only buy a 2S if I was buying a manual. You can do things with a rear wheel drive manual which are harder to do with an rear drive automatic.
Once you go with the PDK then the 4S is superior in every way.
Once you go with the PDK then the 4S is superior in every way.
#15
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For driving in any area where it rains a lot I'd say it's worthwhile.
Don't ignore the ability to safety maneuver from hazards and incompetence during slippery conditions where having all-wheel-drive may be all the difference versus the rwd. The extra traction is noticeable as is the slightly different, some may call more authentic, feel of the rwd version, based on my daily use of both configurations in the past decade.
Obviously, it's a trade-off based on your needs and purposes! I'd say, for only dry conditions forgo it, but to daily, or for wet or inclement conditions the advantage is certainly with the all-wheel-drive.
Don't ignore the ability to safety maneuver from hazards and incompetence during slippery conditions where having all-wheel-drive may be all the difference versus the rwd. The extra traction is noticeable as is the slightly different, some may call more authentic, feel of the rwd version, based on my daily use of both configurations in the past decade.
Obviously, it's a trade-off based on your needs and purposes! I'd say, for only dry conditions forgo it, but to daily, or for wet or inclement conditions the advantage is certainly with the all-wheel-drive.
I'm in rural PA where we get about 5 days of snow per year (on those days I will stay home or use the Alfa Stelvio or my wife's Tesla) so that was not an issue. But I did think about wet weather situations which are quite common - until I saw several videos of 992 reviewers doing silly things to try and catch out the WET mode on a S model on flooded tracks - incredibly impressive. I think a 992 S with WET mode should be sufficient to handle rainy days for daily driving (or just drive more carefully even without WET mode).