C/D testing director calls the 992 like he sees it
03-22-2019, 10:23 PM
#17
So the bottom line is that the 20 or so reviewers that have driven the car and like it are "Porsche shills", but the one guy who admittedly isn't a 911 buyer and clearly doesn't like the direction in which Porsche is heading is the only one speaking the truth? Is the new car perfect? No, but it's still a great car. It's time to get over it, limegreen and Archimedes. The 992 is here to stay for the next few years. Go to your Boxster forum or the forums for whatever cars you actually own and whine all you want there. Those of us that have some interest in purchasing a 992 don't need your repetitious criticism.
03-22-2019, 11:46 PM
#19
So the bottom line is that the 20 or so reviewers that have driven the car and like it are "Porsche shills", but the one guy who admittedly isn't a 911 buyer and clearly doesn't like the direction in which Porsche is heading is the only one speaking the truth? Is the new car perfect? No, but it's still a great car. It's time to get over it, limegreen and Archimedes. The 992 is here to stay for the next few years. Go to your Boxster forum or the forums for whatever cars you actually own and whine all you want there. Those of us that have some interest in purchasing a 992 don't need your repetitious criticism.
And yes, it is nice to find that there is a journalist out there who is willing to call a spade a spade, rather than just hype up the newest thing as so many journos do these days. And the most important point he’s making is not whether the new car is good or not; it’s simply that it represents a very big change in Porsche philosophy in a number of ways. Which is my point. The idea that the 992 is just a small evolution of the 991 is nonsense.
03-23-2019, 12:18 AM
#20
Instructor
So the bottom line is that the 20 or so reviewers that have driven the car and like it are "Porsche shills", but the one guy who admittedly isn't a 911 buyer and clearly doesn't like the direction in which Porsche is heading is the only one speaking the truth? Is the new car perfect? No, but it's still a great car. It's time to get over it, limegreen and Archimedes. The 992 is here to stay for the next few years. Go to your Boxster forum or the forums for whatever cars you actually own and whine all you want there. Those of us that have some interest in purchasing a 992 don't need your repetitious criticism.
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03-23-2019, 12:46 AM
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Understandable the article is triggered by his own opinion of the Cayenne Coupe...
A base 997 carrera cost $69,300 in 2005. Considering the current price of 992 and that it will stay until 2025 , the very low RnD they spent in over 20 years in chassis materials and base engine technology is an amazing business case These are marketing super inflated cars and they keep selling it!
“Volkswagen/Audi spent money developing adaptive cruise control then implented for the 911 and a system to tell the stability control when there is too much water on the road.”
A base 997 carrera cost $69,300 in 2005. Considering the current price of 992 and that it will stay until 2025 , the very low RnD they spent in over 20 years in chassis materials and base engine technology is an amazing business case These are marketing super inflated cars and they keep selling it!
“Volkswagen/Audi spent money developing adaptive cruise control then implented for the 911 and a system to tell the stability control when there is too much water on the road.”
i am not so sure they ve ever believed in the 911 project,
i can hear the board "overall the company is just an Audi
Q5(Macan) Q7(Cayenne) A8(Panamera) tuner, why the hell the customer keep insisting on that 911???"
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03-23-2019, 02:33 AM
#22
Burning Brakes
Precisely. For example, the Alcantara headliner, which was standard on even a base 991.2, is now optional on the 992 S--for about $1400.
03-23-2019, 10:34 AM
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Three Wheelin'
The Cayenne coupe is definitely a shark jumping move by Porsche. It can only be the harbinger of worse to come from a marque whose traditional focus on only sports cars has been blurred into the unrecognizable. The 992 is a further advancement of VW-Porsche corporate policy, whether they sell like hot cakes or flop at the box office.
03-23-2019, 11:17 AM
#24
I agree with the article and will vote with my wallet. I pride myself on owning cars with naturally-aspirated motors, analog gauges and performance exhausts with real and connected tips. As such a 992 will never sit in my garage. Best of luck to Porsche and future 992 owners.
03-23-2019, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by djcxxx
The Cayenne coupe is definitely a shark jumping move by Porsche. It can only be the harbinger of worse to come from a marque whose traditional focus on only sports cars has been blurred into the unrecognizable. The 992 is a further advancement of VW-Porsche corporate policy, whether they sell like hot cakes or flop at the box office.
03-23-2019, 12:00 PM
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If Porsche didn’t diversify their product line there wouldn’t be a 911 of any kind, NA, FI, analog or whatever.
03-23-2019, 12:01 PM
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I agree with the article and will vote with my wallet. I pride myself on owning cars with naturally-aspirated motors, analog gauges and performance exhausts with real and connected tips. As such a 992 will never sit in my garage. Best of luck to Porsche and future 992 owners.
03-23-2019, 02:28 PM
#28
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Can you please explain how the Cayenne coupe is the shark jumping move, but that the original Cayenne in 2003 wasn't or didn't turn out to be? Seems like original decision to build an SUV or the Panamera would have been the real departure from the Porsche traditional focus. Except that it didn't out to be so bad for the 911 fans and the current haters need to find a new focus for their disdain, i.e. the Cayenne coupe and the 992, which none of them have actually driven.
03-23-2019, 02:41 PM
#29
Originally Posted by ipse dixit
That sort of limits your options for new cars doesn’t it? If not eliminate it entirely?
Used GT3s or 991.1s at best from now on and mind you if add hydraulic steering the options become even more limited.
Last year I paid new M3 money for a 5-yr old E92 M3.
03-23-2019, 03:31 PM
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