PDCC on 992
#16
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You're totally fine. RWS is a must for performance honestly, but PDCC is whatever at the end of the day IMHO. And for the road you'll barely notice it in a c2.
#17
Race Car
PDCC only matters if you insist on having the optimal tire contact patch for very high G cornering. The difference between PDCC and no PDCC is marginal but real and greater the higher the speed.
One of the best race car suspension tuners in the US once explained it to me as being the equivalent of having a chassis engineer sitting in the car making real time adjustments to optimize contact patch. That is engineering-- not marketing.
But face it, apart from a bit less roll, you have to be on a track or driving ridiculous speeds to realize the benefits. A bit of roll and rear end unruliness on a car with already phenomenal handling adds to the fun feel, much like a sport exhaust or manual tranny. A bit of imperfection is what makes most of 911 variants (for me) more fun than a Turbo S to drive, despite the fact that given equivalent drivers it will run away from them everywhere.
One of the best race car suspension tuners in the US once explained it to me as being the equivalent of having a chassis engineer sitting in the car making real time adjustments to optimize contact patch. That is engineering-- not marketing.
But face it, apart from a bit less roll, you have to be on a track or driving ridiculous speeds to realize the benefits. A bit of roll and rear end unruliness on a car with already phenomenal handling adds to the fun feel, much like a sport exhaust or manual tranny. A bit of imperfection is what makes most of 911 variants (for me) more fun than a Turbo S to drive, despite the fact that given equivalent drivers it will run away from them everywhere.
#18
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U can also skip sunroof and fancy electronics and transfer weight from the car to the wallet. Should keep the car flatter too
#19
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Just FYI.
The GT cars do not have PDCC. It's not even an option.
The GT cars do not have PDCC. It's not even an option.
#20
RWS is felt for sure when making tight turns at city/local, and highway turns, and thus inspires additional confidence during such maneuvers. PDCC is barely noticeable for non-track use compared to equivalent non-equipped 991's and 992's. Even on the track it is difficult to directly feel a difference. I would select RWS for sure, and consider PDCC if you track heavily.
#21
Activation of PDCC
Hi. I have 992 with pdcc and do not quite understand how it works. Is it enabled all the time and by pressing the button your only choose normal or sport mode of pdcc, or it is necessary to switch it on by button otherwise it is off?
#22
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Pretty sure the good folks at SportAuto weighed in on this at one point. Recommend to delete along with Sports Exhaust.
#23
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The button just indicates that your car is outfitted with PDCC. The only thing the button does is change the chassis from the normal to the sport chassis. In other words, PDCC cannot be turned off or on, even though the button would lead one to think otherwise. What the button is showing you is that the dampers are in normal or sport mode.
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Mario52 (05-02-2021)
#24
I asked it because I do not feel flat cornering at all… Earlier I had Cayman S 2018 without even PASM and RAS and I think it was better in handling and cornering. And also I did not find PDCC screen on dashboard like on my Cayenne GTS.
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It can never be disabled because it’s hardware as well as software. Your PDCC car has physically different rollbars to a non-PDCC car, well actually its the end connectors that are different according to Porsche.
Last edited by aggie57; 05-02-2021 at 12:54 PM.
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Mario52 (05-02-2021)
#26
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The Cayman is smaller, weighs hundreds of pounds less, and has a better engine placement. It's naturally going to handle better, even without any assistant systems. This would be an apples and oranges type comparison.
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Thay may be because you're not familiar with how a 911 handles. It's basically got big booty, which provides a different driving dynamic than a mid-engined car like the Cayman, which is very neutral.
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aggie57 (05-03-2021)
#29
I have a Targa 4S build on order and I included it in my spec. The Targa can’t get SPASM and it has a higher center of gravity than the coupe and cabriolet It has been mentioned in some online reviews that PDCC is recommended for a Targa.
If I had a Targa GTS on order (when it’s available) I’m not sure PDCC would still be in my spec as the GTS Targa should be 10mm lower (I’m not sure if they make any other modifications to the suspension in the Targa GTS).
If I had a Targa GTS on order (when it’s available) I’m not sure PDCC would still be in my spec as the GTS Targa should be 10mm lower (I’m not sure if they make any other modifications to the suspension in the Targa GTS).
#30
No - Targa GTS is not lower. Only the cabrio and the coupe get the "SPASM" 10mm lower option. With a Targa, your only option will be an aftermarket lowering kit. KW HAS is your best option from a price perspective. If money is no object, bilstein coilovers.