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I do hope they improve the feel of the manual if it's based on the same old 7 speed PDK. I've never driven a Porsche 6 speed manual like GT3, but my old E36 M3 stick and transmission is much better then the Porsche 7 speed. Feels more direct and precise.
Golf R seems to have a lot of manuals too, but I don’t have a percentage. Even things you think would be a high take rate like challenger are low take rates. The stat I read for all cars for 2018 was 3% down from 30% in 1990.
BMW was shocked, form what I hear and has adjusted future plans.
New variants that were not expected to get a manual will now be getting them.
I would not be surprised if other manufacturers take notice.
You need to try the 7MT in the Carrera T with the short shifter and shorter gearing. It is absolutely phenomenal.
Originally Posted by Carrera-T
Agree! The manual in the Carrera T is an amazing and pure driving experience.
That's a little strong - the T shifter may be better than the vanilla 991 7 speed, but it's not nearly as smooth or precise as something like the S2000. Overall I don't think it's bad and it's way more fun & engaging than any automatic, but there is definitely room for improvement. This is with 12k+ miles on mine.
That's a little strong - the T shifter may be better than the vanilla 991 7 speed, but it's not nearly as smooth or precise as something like the S2000. Overall I don't think it's bad and it's way more fun & engaging than any automatic, but there is definitely room for improvement. This is with 12k+ miles on mine.
Not too strong at all, Porsche did wonders with the 7MT over the course of the 991's generational life, and the setup in the Carrera T is the pinnacle. And I'm a GT3 6MT owner saying that. The S2000 tranny may be very nice but we don't have that option...though I can't say I've ever been much of a Honda guy.
That's a little strong - the T shifter may be better than the vanilla 991 7 speed, but it's not nearly as smooth or precise as something like the S2000. Overall I don't think it's bad and it's way more fun & engaging than any automatic, but there is definitely room for improvement. This is with 12k+ miles on mine.
I've owned a lot of manuals, including a T now and a couple AP1 (9k rpm) S2000s previously. I agree the T is very good, one of the best I've had the chance to experience, but not as good as the S2000. I encourage anyone who likes a manual trans to drive an S2000 if they get a chance. Given that the S2000 has such low torque, the trans internals are light and easy to maneuver. It is the only manual trans that I could shift with only my fingers and the only one that truly does feel like a well-oiled rifle bolt. It feels more like a snick-snick of a sequential gearbox. The T is very very good though, especially when it is hot.
I give Porsche a lot of credit for sticking with the manual when others are letting it go. Very glad to see it in the 992. Hopefully other manufacturers see the sales success and continue to offer it on their specialty sports cars. Mercedes and Audi have no manuals, right? No high end Italian manuals anymore? Only select Porsche, BMW, and some American and Japanese manual sports cars left.
Following the launch I attended last night, I did some reading in some of the docs I've managed to acquire over the last several weeks... one of the documents I have (marked INTERNAL in bold red) clearly has a sentence referencing the Manual Transmission and its expected availability in early 2020 (much longer than I thought).
I fear the upcoming 7 speed manual may be based on the 8 speed PDK, and each manual gear selection just triggers a switch to electrically change gears, lol. I hope not....
I do hope they improve the feel of the manual if it's based on the same old 7 speed PDK. I've never driven a Porsche 6 speed manual like GT3, but my old E36 M3 stick and transmission is much better then the Porsche 7 speed. Feels more direct and precise.
Yeah, really slow roll-out, no base model for quite awhile, no MT for quite awhile, prices have gone thru the roof......cost of a base cab with a few options now going to be in 130s easy.......losing my enthusiasm for 992. Real value in 718-6 if they proceed with it.....
03-11-2019, 04:19 PM
