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Old 03-03-2019, 05:15 PM
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IMO 992 gt3rs will be hybrid as they’d still offer manual gt3t alongside gt3 perhaps with 520hp like 991.2 gt3rs
Old 03-03-2019, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fester
IMO 992 gt3rs will be hybrid as they’d still offer manual gt3t alongside gt3 perhaps with 520hp like 991.2 gt3rs
From your mouth to God’s ear, my friend. I hope youre right!
Old 03-03-2019, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fester
IMO 992 gt3rs will be hybrid as they’d still offer manual gt3t alongside gt3 perhaps with 520hp like 991.2 gt3rs
Agreed. I think the 992 GT3 RS will likely be the first hybrid but there are also talks about Porsche retaining the manual transmission as an option in the hybrid GT3 models. I won’t pretend to understand the technical side of it but there is a discussion in the GT forums that explains how it would work in a bit more detail.
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Next generation of 911 will be 100% electric.
Old 03-03-2019, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gary.lee
Next generation of 911 will be 100% electric.
That's a load of BS.

There are 'plans for a hybrid.'

An electric 911 is just another car.
Old 03-04-2019, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
The hybrid is going to be be a heavy beast and probably like $15K more $$$ or something like that. We get even further away from a pure sports car. No thanks.
I think more $$$. Unless there is a recession going on when the hybrid edition gets released. Or, maybe governments get serious about charging for carbon consumption.

The 992.1 is a half *** model which is a placeholder for an even bigger train wreck on the horizon. Get a Hellcat if you want a rocket.
I keep wondering why the rush to release a half-baked placeholder model. An extra year or two of the 991.2 wouldn't have hurt anything. It is not as if sales of 991.2 cars were lagging.
Old 03-04-2019, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 96redLT4
Good point. Come to think of it there are a lot of test mules between the 918 and these other cars for a 911 hybrid-now if they can just figure out how to put it in a 3100 lb package
That may be what is holding back a 911 hybrid - too much bloat.
Old 03-04-2019, 06:18 PM
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A question that I continuously ask myself is why would anyone want a 911 with hybrid gear?
Old 03-04-2019, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by limegreen
A question that I continuously ask myself is why would anyone want a 911 with hybrid gear?
To be more fuel efficient on the WLTP cycle. Heavier cars are always worse. It's a sh*t idea. This 'innovation' will also keep the industry busy for the next god knows how many years. Cars are about to become outdated more quickly, like digital cameras.
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Originally Posted by Gravs
To be more fuel efficient on the WLTP cycle. Heavier cars are always worse. It's a sh*t idea. This 'innovation' will also keep the industry busy for the next god knows how many years. Cars are about to become outdated more quickly, like digital cameras.

I have real difficultly believing that a well informed Porsche 911 buyer would be inclined to spend significant money making their sports car heavier and more complex all to save a few bucks on fuel or worse, as an attempt to make mostly insignificant reductions in greenhouse gas output while creating the appearance of being environmentally friendly.

I agree that cars are becoming outdated more quickly but also believe that this is extremely problematic and in almost direct opposition to being efficiency or Eco friendly when the complete life cycle of the vehicle is factored in. The manufacturing of a vehicle consumes significant energy and resources both before and after it's useful life as a driving machine.

It's even worse when we factor the incredible cost and debt burden of steep depreciation placed upon the consumer who either will lease or own these rapidly obsolete vehicles.

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Pretty sure the hybrid system in the 992 will be there for performance reasons...
Old 03-04-2019, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gary.lee
Next generation of 911 will be 100% electric.
Gary, Gary, Gary........
Old 03-04-2019, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by minthral
Pretty sure the hybrid system in the 992 will be there for performance reasons...
Hybrid systems are not implemented for performance reasons. They were originally and currently implemented for fuel efficiency and reduced emissions. The “performance gains” are purely a fortunate side effect to an unfortunate system and automakers are pushing the marketing on that performance aspect in order to boost sales on these cars that would otherwise be written off as an expensive and ambitious version of a Prius.
Old 03-04-2019, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by limegreen


Hybrid systems are not implemented for performance reasons. They were originally and currently implemented for fuel efficiency and reduced emissions. The “performance gains” are purely a fortunate side effect to an unfortunate system and automakers are pushing the marketing on that performance aspect in order to boost sales on these cars that would otherwise be written off as an expensive and ambitious version of a Prius.
Yep that has been the traditional thought. Today electric instant torque is also about performance along with low emissions/efficiency.

Porsche themselves demonstrated the tech with 918 and their endurance race car.

Sorry but your perceptive is off (or old).


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