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Old 01-23-2019, 02:28 AM
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Default Wow my 4S Config is coming close to 991 Turbo Prices..

Just trying to configure this build
http://www.porsche-code.com/PLZ5RPE7

Low and behold, the prices are coming up to 991 Turbo prices....looks like VW Diesel Emission Fine Tax is being added to these cars. Unreal price for 4S, sure I have added some real extra options like Burmester but still Wow....unreal.

182K ....

I wonder how high the Turbo S will go for - 250K??
Old 01-23-2019, 08:01 AM
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Night vision? Sport design? Side skirts? Paint protection? Front axel lift? Ionizer? Roof lining in Alcantara?

You can definitely take 20k off that build and not affect performance at all. However, they are getting very expensive.

I would also skip PCCB as I like to track. The steel Porsche brakes are really good.
Old 01-23-2019, 09:53 AM
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Take it easy Killer! You must be the guy that stands in line for hours for the new iPhone. Just think the Carbon roof hasn't been added to the config yet... Something more for you to look forward to.
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I said it early on, the pricing is getting too aggressive and will be an obstacle. Getting less for more $$$, and some cost saving measures.

Depreciation will be even more as well.

We're seeing a slow down in the economy and the markets have been shaky. The huge economic run Porsche had benefited from is behind us.
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my 992 S build that I ordered came to $140k, and I was trying to skimp on options. You are right though, hard to swallow when low mile CPO 2015 GT3s can be had for that! I built it for a DD, I like the new looks, so worth a shot.
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Even if I take most of the options out and keep it at min, it is still way higher for 4S....I may have to wait till the Turbo models are out and then gauge on how much the GTS will be etc, and wondering how much discount dealers will give (I know right now it will be close to nil).

I can not recall, is this biggest jump in prices when compared to 997 to 991 or 996 to 997?

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I just configured a 992S and a 991.2S to try to compare apples to apples and found that the 992 costs less. I took the 991.2 and added PDK and a powerkit to give it about he same power and same standard transmission as a 992. I then added sport exhaust, sport chrono and Alcantara roof liner to the 992 since the powerkit comes with sport exhaust and chrono and Alcantara is standard on the 991. Granted, the cars aren't exactly the same, but they're pretty close. The 992 is about $1,000 less.
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Originally Posted by tgcrun
I just configured a 992S and a 991.2S to try to compare apples to apples and found that the 992 costs less. I took the 991.2 and added PDK and a powerkit to give it about he same power and same standard transmission as a 992. I then added sport exhaust, sport chrono and Alcantara roof liner to the 992 since the powerkit comes with sport exhaust and chrono and Alcantara is standard on the 991. Granted, the cars aren't exactly the same, but they're pretty close. The 992 is about $1,000 less.
I don't think that's a fair comparison though. With each new generation you'll see increases in performance either through HP or transmission, so by adding the powerkit to the 991 to match a 992 output without one isn't truly comparing apples to apples. You would need a Turbo from 997 gen to match a current S/4S spec....although now thinking about it a bit more...............a new 4S right now does cost about the same as a brand new Turbo back from 997 era......ok never mind
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my option budget is 15k. most of options are pointless and frankly, rip-off.
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Having purchased 5 new 911s, I’m struggling swallowing an 8% jump in price and then being shut out (unless I’m willing to cough up ADM) of a GT3, et al. Where does the game end? What does winning look like? It’s in our nature to want the “best”. These cars solve 2 engineering problems - how to go around the Nürburgring faster, and how to improve fuel economy while doing so. Each one is going to be better. Each new version will be faster. The 300 you tubers and reviewers will put them under a microscope and conclude - yes it’s better.

I get that it’s fun to have something new, but there’s no end, no done, only a treadmill you can’t get off of. I think for the most part, unless you’re so inflexible on options, letting someone else take the depreciation hit and getting a CPO car is the way to go. Better still, is getting an older one that’s now on the upward side of the appreciation curve, like any decent air-cooled car or a 997.2.

Empyrically the 991 was a big change from the 997. The 991.2 was a pretty big change too. The 992 is a change, but not as revolutionary in Porsche terms.
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Originally Posted by BlackBeauty
Having purchased 5 new 911s, I’m struggling swallowing an 8% jump in price and then being shut out (unless I’m willing to cough up ADM) of a GT3, et al. Where does the game end? What does winning look like? It’s in our nature to want the “best”. These cars solve 2 engineering problems - how to go around the Nürburgring faster, and how to improve fuel economy while doing so. Each one is going to be better. Each new version will be faster. The 300 you tubers and reviewers will put them under a microscope and conclude - yes it’s better.

I get that it’s fun to have something new, but there’s no end, no done, only a treadmill you can’t get off of. I think for the most part, unless you’re so inflexible on options, letting someone else take the depreciation hit and getting a CPO car is the way to go. Better still, is getting an older one that’s now on the upward side of the appreciation curve, like any decent air-cooled car or a 997.2.

Empyrically the 991 was a big change from the 997. The 991.2 was a pretty big change too. The 992 is a change, but not as revolutionary in Porsche terms.
Actually, if you factor in the cost of the PDK gearbox, the price increase between a 991.2 S coupe and a 992 is approximately 4.55%. That's about 2.5% more than inflation for more power, better steering, more tech, etc. Granted, buying a new car is like throwing money away, but at this point in life, I'm spending my kids' money, so I'm not too concerned.
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I spent last night toying around with a 992 C2S configuration and I honestly stopped at 145k. I just don’t see myself paying that much for a C2S.
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Skimped on options and was around 133-35k for a c4s
Old 01-26-2019, 02:58 PM
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Every build Ive done including what should be in a luxury gt car (thats what these are lets not get twisted), but without the "extra extra" STILL hits the 150-160 range...as a 4s...so yeah they really are pricier.


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