How many are waiting for manual
#16
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I have been fortunate to have had both manual and PDK; hands down manual for me but its such a personal decision. Only time I really miss the PDK is when I take car out on track but only get out twice/year lately.
my current Targa GTS 991.1 is coming off lease end of this month and I need to decide whether to buy it (I really love this one) or flip it and wait to order the 992 Targa GTS which I understand is not avail for a year or so...
Earlier poster said something about a 6 speed from the R; that would be so amazing but I bet Porsche only teases us and gives us a 7 speed.
my current Targa GTS 991.1 is coming off lease end of this month and I need to decide whether to buy it (I really love this one) or flip it and wait to order the 992 Targa GTS which I understand is not avail for a year or so...
Earlier poster said something about a 6 speed from the R; that would be so amazing but I bet Porsche only teases us and gives us a 7 speed.
#19
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I'm awaiting a 991.2 GTS 7MT due in early March. But if I were to have waited on the 992s, I would be waiting for a manual.
Only way I would get a 911 w/out manual is if I'm getting a GT3 or 3RS with the intent to put more than 50% of the miles on it at a track. And this is with me thinking the PDK was brilliant, from all the test drives. I just find a manual so much more engaging, so much a part of the joy I get when out driving.
It's not like I would hate a 911 w/PDK. I'd still love it, I'm sure. The excitement of improved acceleration and the thrill of rapid-fire upshifts would be great.
But I would miss having a manual.
Only way I would get a 911 w/out manual is if I'm getting a GT3 or 3RS with the intent to put more than 50% of the miles on it at a track. And this is with me thinking the PDK was brilliant, from all the test drives. I just find a manual so much more engaging, so much a part of the joy I get when out driving.
It's not like I would hate a 911 w/PDK. I'd still love it, I'm sure. The excitement of improved acceleration and the thrill of rapid-fire upshifts would be great.
But I would miss having a manual.
#20
I have been fortunate to have had both manual and PDK; hands down manual for me but its such a personal decision. Only time I really miss the PDK is when I take car out on track but only get out twice/year lately.
my current Targa GTS 991.1 is coming off lease end of this month and I need to decide whether to buy it (I really love this one) or flip it and wait to order the 992 Targa GTS which I understand is not avail for a year or so...
Earlier poster said something about a 6 speed from the R; that would be so amazing but I bet Porsche only teases us and gives us a 7 speed.
my current Targa GTS 991.1 is coming off lease end of this month and I need to decide whether to buy it (I really love this one) or flip it and wait to order the 992 Targa GTS which I understand is not avail for a year or so...
Earlier poster said something about a 6 speed from the R; that would be so amazing but I bet Porsche only teases us and gives us a 7 speed.
My advice is to buy your car and keep it until your 992 arrives.
#21
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Waiting to see and drive the car. If it’s okay, I’ll get a manual. If not, I don’t know what I’ll do. My lease is up in 11 months.
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If you are even thinking that the manual may be the best for you, since you said "People seem to really like the PDK but I just don't think I will enjoy as much." you cannot get the PDK no matter how long it takes, trust me. If I was not able to get my 991.2 in a manual I would not have it.
#23
If you are even thinking that the manual may be the best for you, since you said "People seem to really like the PDK but I just don't think I will enjoy as much." you cannot get the PDK no matter how long it takes, trust me. If I was not able to get my 991.2 in a manual I would not have it.
Its remarkable how popular the PDK has been though.
#24
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Every time I buy a sports car with an automatic transmission, I wish I bought a manual. Every time I buy a sports car with a manual, it never occurs to me that I should have gotten the auto.
#25
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The advantage of a manual transmission now is that the chance of your car getting stolen is significantly lower than with a PDK.
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#28
This ^^^
Not really. PDK makes even the least skilled driver feel competent behind the wheel. This, coupled with the convenience of needing to use only one hand and one foot, makes it an easy popularity winner.
Indeed!
Not really. PDK makes even the least skilled driver feel competent behind the wheel. This, coupled with the convenience of needing to use only one hand and one foot, makes it an easy popularity winner.
Indeed!
#29
And the people who drive stick probably don't belong to the car stealing demographic. Even better.
#30
A few years ago, I was ready for my first Porsche. I agonized for months trying to decide between the pdk and the manual. I couldn't get away from the 0-60 times and the fact that the pdk was materially quicker. So I bought a very gently used 2013 4S with pdk. It is a really awesome transmission, super intuitive and shifts lightning quick. But I missed the engagement of the manual. In the real world, 0-60 times rarely matter. My drag racing days are behind me. I sold the 4S and ordered a 2017 GTS with a manual. I never miss the pdk and don't plan on ever selling the GTS (it will likely be the last new manual car I buy).
I have spent a reasonable amount of track time in the GTS, both manual and pdk, at Porsche driving school in Alabama. Maybe at the limits, there is a difference. As a non professional driver, you don't get near the limits of these cars. The reality is that because of the torque curve, you can pretty much leave the manual in third and run most tracks without a real need to shift (maybe down to second for a particularly sharp turn or up to fourth on a long straight) but that is it. If you are back and forth in your head, avoid the multi thousand dollar mistake and get the manual. That said If you are primarily looking to squeeze out a few few tenths or maybe even a second or two on track, get the pdk (or get a used GT3 for similar money).
I have spent a reasonable amount of track time in the GTS, both manual and pdk, at Porsche driving school in Alabama. Maybe at the limits, there is a difference. As a non professional driver, you don't get near the limits of these cars. The reality is that because of the torque curve, you can pretty much leave the manual in third and run most tracks without a real need to shift (maybe down to second for a particularly sharp turn or up to fourth on a long straight) but that is it. If you are back and forth in your head, avoid the multi thousand dollar mistake and get the manual. That said If you are primarily looking to squeeze out a few few tenths or maybe even a second or two on track, get the pdk (or get a used GT3 for similar money).