First look at the 992 away from the lights…
01-02-2019, 02:31 PM
#61
Three Wheelin'
It's pretty easy to accurately criticize the 992 without first hand experience. The car utilizes the same platform and engine so let's be honest, how different can it possibly be? Going from 993-996 or 997-991 is a completely different story. I'll drive one when it comes out and what will it drive like? A lot like a 991.2 with minor differences I'd wager....
Secondly, real pictures aren't some sort of trickster illusion and after studying the multitude of pictures available the 992 is just plain ugly and awkward in many aspects in my opinion. It's a lousy redesign, period and I highly doubt seeing one in person is going to change that. How can I be so sure? Because every car in the last 20 years that I've loved or hated started with the pictures and while maybe certain things got better or worse in real life I have never found them dramatic enough to question my ability to make an accurate pre judgement. The ugly rear end, the homogenized styling , cheesy door handles, over loaded tech / Panamera interior etc etc none of that is going to suddenly look good or go away in the first person.
My advice to anyone on the fence and waiting to see one is to trust your eyes and gut now to avoid showroom despair later.....
Secondly, real pictures aren't some sort of trickster illusion and after studying the multitude of pictures available the 992 is just plain ugly and awkward in many aspects in my opinion. It's a lousy redesign, period and I highly doubt seeing one in person is going to change that. How can I be so sure? Because every car in the last 20 years that I've loved or hated started with the pictures and while maybe certain things got better or worse in real life I have never found them dramatic enough to question my ability to make an accurate pre judgement. The ugly rear end, the homogenized styling , cheesy door handles, over loaded tech / Panamera interior etc etc none of that is going to suddenly look good or go away in the first person.
My advice to anyone on the fence and waiting to see one is to trust your eyes and gut now to avoid showroom despair later.....
01-02-2019, 11:35 PM
#62
Rennlist Member
Thanks for a great evening read, Pete. The shots of the raw tub are very revealing (no pun intended). I suspect some of the missing metal on either side of the shock towers was a liposuction job for the increased weight from the wheels, particulate filter, PDK unit and more massive turbo/intercooler system. Echoing everyone else, 200-300 lbs is a humongous turkey dinner.
Most peculiar to me are those shock tower straps. I wonder if they were needed as a (second) bandaid to reinforce the towers after removing the metal from either side. Those just do not seem like typical Porsche engineering. We see 'fixes' like this sometimes in the .2 versions but not the launch gen.
Looking forward to the notes from your drive in Valencia and what pops up in 000.
Most peculiar to me are those shock tower straps. I wonder if they were needed as a (second) bandaid to reinforce the towers after removing the metal from either side. Those just do not seem like typical Porsche engineering. We see 'fixes' like this sometimes in the .2 versions but not the launch gen.
Looking forward to the notes from your drive in Valencia and what pops up in 000.
01-03-2019, 01:26 PM
#64
Rennlist Member
Another thread indicated they would be available to spec later next year along with a few other options like the 7MT. I suspect they will be available in the first gen 992.
01-03-2019, 04:00 PM
#66
Rennlist Member
Thanks for a great evening read, Pete. The shots of the raw tub are very revealing (no pun intended). I suspect some of the missing metal on either side of the shock towers was a liposuction job for the increased weight from the wheels, particulate filter, PDK unit and more massive turbo/intercooler system. Echoing everyone else, 200-300 lbs is a humongous turkey dinner.
Most peculiar to me are those shock tower straps. I wonder if they were needed as a (second) bandaid to reinforce the towers after removing the metal from either side. Those just do not seem like typical Porsche engineering. We see 'fixes' like this sometimes in the .2 versions but not the launch gen.
Looking forward to the notes from your drive in Valencia and what pops up in 000.
Most peculiar to me are those shock tower straps. I wonder if they were needed as a (second) bandaid to reinforce the towers after removing the metal from either side. Those just do not seem like typical Porsche engineering. We see 'fixes' like this sometimes in the .2 versions but not the launch gen.
Looking forward to the notes from your drive in Valencia and what pops up in 000.
01-04-2019, 01:32 PM
#67
Rennlist Member
Yes, no doubt about that! I'm sure Porsche's finest engineers are struggling with that challenge as we speak - but I'm anxiously waiting to see how that project turns out. Maybe the hybrid version gets something like the 718's 4-cyl to compensate? We'd call it a 912 instead of a 911 - but they could drop some weight that way. Considering the implications of the new chassis rail engine mount that Pete pointed out - does eliminating the "crossbar" help with battery placement?
01-09-2019, 08:36 PM
#68
Thanks Pete.
Love the photos of the chassis!
Love the photos of the chassis!