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Needsdecaf 12-15-2018 11:15 AM

Autogefuhl Review and Drive of 992
 
Sorry if repost. I did search.

Brian is not my favorite presenter on this channel as he tends to....I dunno, he’s just not as likable as Thomas to me. But good video.



Porsche911GTS'16 12-15-2018 12:09 PM

Thanks for sharing. I'm not buying his justification for the nubbin.

uniqueMR 12-15-2018 12:41 PM

Thanks for sharing. 992 is awesome :)

Needsdecaf 12-15-2018 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Porsche911GTS'16 (Post 15498978)
Thanks for sharing. I'm not buying his justification for the nubbin.

I do.

I dont like the nubbin. But having driven the current generation Panamera about 10 days, and the capacitive touch screen buttons on the far right in front of the shifter are hard to see / touch / use because of the shifter placement. This layout is different and the shifter is less obtrusive. So it definitely will help.

Semitone 12-15-2018 02:29 PM

I like the Autogefuhl reviews. Probably my favorite presenters...then again...I like the nubbin, turbos and all the the other stuff many people around here hate.

By the way, I don't get the discussion about "fake" exhaust pipes. Don't all Porsches have "cosmetic" tips on the tailpipe. How are these tips different than the usual? Seems immaterial to me.

Johisco 12-15-2018 03:04 PM

Love 992. But that was a ride, not a drive

Marv 12-15-2018 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Semitone (Post 15499288)
I like the Autogefuhl reviews. Probably my favorite presenters...then again...I like the nubbin, turbos and all the the other stuff many people around here hate.

By the way, I don;t get the discussion about "fake" exhaust pipes. Don't all Porsches have "cosmetic" tips on the tailpipe. How are these tips different the usual? Seems immaterial to me.

Yes, but mine are attached/clamped on like a funnel, which is different than what some have described as an exhaust pipe routed into a decorative tube with minimal (if any) mechanical attachment.

gary.lee 12-15-2018 03:38 PM

Yeah i watched the whole thing. it was better than porn. Unfortunately, that big overly-complicated thing called engine will be replaced by electric motor in 10 years, whether you like or it. Enjoy it while it lasts cus dinosaur juice engine will be in museum or auction in 50 years.

skiahh 12-15-2018 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Porsche911GTS'16 (Post 15498978)
Thanks for sharing. I'm not buying his justification for the nubbin.

I do. I'm not really a fan of the nubbin as a centerpiece of the console, either.

Put it somewhere other than where a traditional shifter goes, though (like on the dash a la the 918) and I'm fine with it, because if you're going to get the PDK, recognize it's better than you will ever be and just use it; put it in D like he said and go. If you want to shift the car, get the MT.

Rocket_boy 12-15-2018 10:49 PM

In non-sport design guise such as the pix/video above,....the front is still horrid. I can't believe Porsche would let that slide. Sport design just looks so much better, should be standard.

gary.lee 12-16-2018 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by Rocket_boy (Post 15500179)
In non-sport design guise such as the pix/video above,....the front is still horrid. I can't believe Porsche would let that slide. Sport design just looks so much better, should be standard.

The sport design front is just the standard front on 991.2. Go Figure. Rip off $3.5k

murox 12-16-2018 09:59 AM

What does the Sport Design front for the 992 look like? Does it fix that atrocious black plastic abyss?

Ccpecot 12-16-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by gary.lee (Post 15500537)
The sport design front is just the standard front on 991.2. Go Figure. Rip off $3.5k

At least for the 991.2 4S, it has a "sport design" package option, which is a slightly different design than the front on the base package. It comes in at $4500 as an option for the whole package.......ask me how I know:-)

gary.lee 12-16-2018 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by murox (Post 15500699)
What does the Sport Design front for the 992 look like? Does it fix that atrocious black plastic abyss?

It's on porsche build

garfunkle 12-16-2018 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Porsche911GTS'16 (Post 15498978)
Thanks for sharing. I'm not buying his justification for the nubbin.


Originally Posted by Needsdecaf (Post 15499275)


I do.

I dont like the nubbin. But having driven the current generation Panamera about 10 days, and the capacitive touch screen buttons on the far right in front of the shifter are hard to see / touch / use because of the shifter placement. This layout is different and the shifter is less obtrusive. So it definitely will help.

I have as much contempt and hate for the new car as anyone.... but the animosity for the nubbin is overkill IMO. The Italians haven't had a manual looking shifter in their automatics (SCT/DCT) in a long time. My old Jag XKR had a rotary selector which was great. I mean, the whole purpose of paddles is to keep your hands ON THE WHEEL. I remember seeing an AMG CLK63 Black series review some time ago and the presenter commented on what it is with a giant gear selector that we feel we need? It will be like having physical buttons on a cell phone... I mean - who still has a blackberry with a qwerty keyboard? VAG has a new executive staff post diesel gate and the future is coming.

The shifter being small because of buttons does not bode well for a manual version either....


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