Porsche 992 thoughts
11-29-2018, 11:35 PM
#31
Race Car
This is one big 'ol tweak:
PASM tweak
Rear end tweak
Fuel injection tweak
Front and rear bumper tweak
Interior and seats tweak
NUBBIN tweak
It's one big 'ol TWEAK - but that will help in the quality department.
11-30-2018, 12:44 AM
#34
Make no mistake, I do like the look of this car very much, just like I like the look of all of the 991's other versions before it. It's a nice refresh, but not a new car. I think that's the point I'm trying to make.
(and yeah, that particular view of the rear brake light is hideous. Who thought that was a good idea?)
(and yeah, that particular view of the rear brake light is hideous. Who thought that was a good idea?)
11-30-2018, 01:10 AM
#35
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5. The new seats in the show cars look much better designed, I hope to sit in a set when I go to the LAAS this weekend, but a complaint I always had about standard 911 seats = OK side bolsters, completely inadequate shoulder bolsters. You basically have to jump straight to the expensive LWB seats for adequate hard driving driver support.
11-30-2018, 03:43 PM
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Ok - so i went and looked at the 992 in more detail. I will go to LA car show and see it in person. But on paper - i dont love the back end very much. Front end looks very similar to the 991.2. Side profile is almost the same and is fine. I dont love the interior dash etc.
i assume the big Turbo will be up at least $8K as thats what the 992 standard is.
Also given the chassis is the same - not a huge step up vs a 997 to 991 move.
So if i had a 991.2 - no way would i pay to move unless i had unlimited funds and the car surprised me in person. I slightly prefer the 991.2 to the 991.1 - even though i have a .1.
If i had a 991.1 (I do), i will keep it and modify it. Going down that path with Sam
. No crazy desire to get a 992
New buyer with lots of funds and have to spec brand new and maybe do ED - 992.
New smart buyer - 991.2 gently used to get a great deal.
i assume the big Turbo will be up at least $8K as thats what the 992 standard is.
Also given the chassis is the same - not a huge step up vs a 997 to 991 move.
So if i had a 991.2 - no way would i pay to move unless i had unlimited funds and the car surprised me in person. I slightly prefer the 991.2 to the 991.1 - even though i have a .1.
If i had a 991.1 (I do), i will keep it and modify it. Going down that path with Sam
. No crazy desire to get a 992New buyer with lots of funds and have to spec brand new and maybe do ED - 992.
New smart buyer - 991.2 gently used to get a great deal.
12-02-2018, 11:34 PM
#38
Instructor
That transformer rear spoiler looks terrible. I think the value of my 991 just skyrocketed.
12-03-2018, 01:51 AM
#40
I saw it yesterday at the LA show. It truly looks like a heavy facelifted 991 in person. All the black plastic on the outside makes it look cheap, interior does look pretty bad starting with the *** and the cupholder. You would think after the interior fiasco with the 996 they would have learned their lesson but apparently not. Hopefully they will massage it as time goes on, but in its current form I am not buying one anytime soon.
12-03-2018, 08:43 AM
#41
Burning Brakes
Makes my order of a new '19 so much better...I was apprehensive thinking I should wait for the 992 TTS release but now I'm glad I snatched up the allotment !!
12-04-2018, 11:25 AM
#42
Burning Brakes
and not unlike the better looking design in my AMG E63S. I agree, it ain't pretty.
12-04-2018, 11:33 AM
#43
911 needs a total revamp if you want to ask me. Frankly, I never liked any 911 until 991.2
All the previous generations prior 991.2 are unappealing in my eyes.
I actually dont know why ppl pay 6 figure for such small and unattractive car.
I also dont get why they bother to make back seats. It's obviously no adults can sit in those backseats.
You may call it tradition. I think it's plain dumb.
Make backseats that are actually useful and move the engine further to the middle. It will handle far better.
While you are at it, make hybrid available in 2 years and complete electric in 4 years.
You cannot fight physics and reality. Age of ICE cars is over.
All the previous generations prior 991.2 are unappealing in my eyes.
I actually dont know why ppl pay 6 figure for such small and unattractive car.
I also dont get why they bother to make back seats. It's obviously no adults can sit in those backseats.
You may call it tradition. I think it's plain dumb.
Make backseats that are actually useful and move the engine further to the middle. It will handle far better.
While you are at it, make hybrid available in 2 years and complete electric in 4 years.
You cannot fight physics and reality. Age of ICE cars is over.
12-04-2018, 02:22 PM
#44
Instructor
911 needs a total revamp if you want to ask me. Frankly, I never liked any 911 until 991.2
All the previous generations prior 991.2 are unappealing in my eyes.
I actually dont know why ppl pay 6 figure for such small and unattractive car.
I also dont get why they bother to make back seats. It's obviously no adults can sit in those backseats.
You may call it tradition. I think it's plain dumb.
Make backseats that are actually useful and move the engine further to the middle. It will handle far better.
While you are at it, make hybrid available in 2 years and complete electric in 4 years.
You cannot fight physics and reality. Age of ICE cars is over.
All the previous generations prior 991.2 are unappealing in my eyes.
I actually dont know why ppl pay 6 figure for such small and unattractive car.
I also dont get why they bother to make back seats. It's obviously no adults can sit in those backseats.
You may call it tradition. I think it's plain dumb.
Make backseats that are actually useful and move the engine further to the middle. It will handle far better.
While you are at it, make hybrid available in 2 years and complete electric in 4 years.
You cannot fight physics and reality. Age of ICE cars is over.
12-04-2018, 03:08 PM
#45
Drifting
911 needs a total revamp if you want to ask me. Frankly, I never liked any 911 until 991.2
I actually dont know why ppl pay 6 figure for such small and unattractive car.
I also dont get why they bother to make back seats. It's obviously no adults can sit in those backseats.
Make backseats that are actually useful and move the engine further to the middle. It will handle far better.
I actually dont know why ppl pay 6 figure for such small and unattractive car.
I also dont get why they bother to make back seats. It's obviously no adults can sit in those backseats.
Make backseats that are actually useful and move the engine further to the middle. It will handle far better.
Back seats are perfect for my 11 and 9-year-olds. Without the small back seats, I'd never have been able to drive the car.
The only way to make the rear seats more useful is to move the engine further back or the cabin further forward. Moving the engine forward as you suggested would only make rear seat space worse.