limegreen

I agree, I'm all for tradition but at the same time I want a modern interpretation rather than a bunch of tacked on cheesy throwback bits like the new hood for instance. It simply doesn't fit the cars style nor does it provide any function seeing that there is no intake in the windshield cowl for that center scoop to feed air into . The interior is a disaster in that same regard, it seems as if they picked the absolute worst parts of the 70's interior to draw their " inspiration" from.

What has become so clear to me now is that the mid platform refresh ( the 992 ) can easily become a flop when there is nothing major to improve on from the previous car aesthetically.

What was in need of improvement over the 991.1 and .2 design wise? Were the door handles too hard to grab ? Was the brake light not ugly enough? Was the center console too clean and free of finger print grease?

I believe they had nowhere to go in the studio on the 992 and that the retro throwbacks and overall awkward design was the result of nothing more than them recycling old ideas because they couldn't come up with anything new. Very much in the same way that movie producers just keep remaking and rebooting old movies... It's just plain lazy and disappointing and while some don't agree it's all I see when I look at the 992.

What they should have done was little more than add a few exterior and interior tweaks to go along with the mechanical tweaks on the new wide body and called it a 991.3.

I'm really looking forward to the 994 because despite it likely being some horrid hybrid or worse... At the very least it will benefit from a clean sheet design and I have no doubts it will once again be beautiful inside and out vs. the overworked mess we are now stuck with for the next 8 years...

The 996 wasn't the prettiest car but it was at least a fresh modern take on the 911. Don't forget Porsche was also near broke when they designed it from scratch and yet still managed to do a halfway decent job. This time around Porsche was flush with cash and there should have been very little in the way of financial constraint preventing them from a stellar redesign.

ABusLux

BSO

It's 10k more out of my pocket, you may want to argue about "value", "cost", "price", it's still 10k that I won't have anymore, for a vehicle has less "value" (to me) at a higher monetary cost than the one I did purchase for a lesser cost.

BTW, I "value" your posts.

STG

LOL ...

Sounds like some sort of salesman tactic.

Can see this at a Porsche dealer .....

Sales guy:

Yeah, that isn't the price of the car so no need to stress. Just tell your wife your cost of buying the car is based on how much you value it. While you're at it, tell her how much you value her and she'll be so damn confused she'll never realize you just spent $160K on a car.

STG

At least this THREAD has NO price or cost and adds VALUE and entertainment for $0.00

Only on Rennlist can one argue about what to call the price of a new car. Unbelievable ..

Archimedes

As I was walking through the parking lot at the golf course today, I was reminded why the 992 is so awful. Because the new Panamera really is an ugly, ugly car. Where it's not generic looking, it's just plain awful, and if it didn't have a Porsche badge and name on it, there's little to nothing that would hint that it was a Porsche. And they took those design cues and ported them over to the 992. If I wanted to design a Salma Hayek, I wouldn't use Rosie O'Donnell as my starting point.

captainkirk

You hit the jackpot....what a quote!!!!

Fdvigna

limegreen

STG

I must say, an impressive process and a lot of hard work. It's a great video to watch. The ending with the testing is kinda boring. Yes, the 992 does walk on water!

Too bad the top down guidance on design couldn't have been better. Most of these poor souls here are just doing the grunt work of the process. Limegreen gave some good comments earlier on some of his opinions.


Not sure why they keep pushing the design aspect of explaining it so much with these books, videos, etc..... If I was them, the last thing I'd be talking about and highlighting is the design and just focus on the performance aspects.

Funny thing is, don't think there's all that much to brag about there either over the 991.2

Rennolazine

ABusLux

Dewinator

Psorcery

pause at 4:26 and 4:28

They actually had shift ***** designed for this car.

STG

Is that really the scale of the nubbin?? That small or is that a giants hand?? LOL.

If it's that small, we have even bigger issues. It's a toggle switch at that point. You don't even have to press a button. Might as well be a push button.