Hate the 992??! OFFICIAL VENTING THREAD # Ultimate bashing allowed. Step in the ring.
01-31-2019, 12:20 PM
#1306
All Porsche had to do was look to the design of the Mission E concept for the clean, flowing lines and simple elegance of it. Porsche could have moved the 992 into the future with a clean, sleek modern interpretation of the 911. Instead they made a bulbous, busy mess with no cohesion at all. Slap on some fender flares and almost dubs in the back, mix square and round design cues up front, and throw in an interior with lines from a 1986 Buick Regal. I have no problem at all with the 911 evolving and getting more modern. Just make it look good when you do it. The new car is a mess and a total miss in terms of moving the design forward into the future.
+2 on the money..... For all the bashing the 996 receives. At the very least it was an original design and at the time represented a modern interpretation of the 911 without resorting to silly gimmicks and botched throw back references.
01-31-2019, 12:39 PM
#1307
Last week I drove my 1st Porsche, a '18 911C2 manual, ~1100 miles from Sarasota FL to Houston, TX, and the cup holder worked fine. The only concern I have with the 992 at this point is interference shifting a manual with a normal sized travel mug behind the shifter.
01-31-2019, 01:10 PM
#1308
I usually put a 1.5l water bottle between my left leg and the door for long trips.
For a manual 992 I'd remove the cup holder and use my current system.
01-31-2019, 02:35 PM
#1309
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Originally Posted by groundhog
I have to say I like the cupholders in the 981 and 991 - simple and not an eyesore. The big gulp cup holder looks really out of place in a sportscar or higher end vehicle - at least to me. Just looks odd - can it be replaced with something else?
Until you try to put a drink in them. They are a disaster.
I'm no fan of the new arrangement, but at least it'll hold a cup. And yes, you can remove it and leave a cubby.
01-31-2019, 02:43 PM
#1310
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I can deal with the cup holder fine as now it holds my coffee but still question the e-brake button there - it should have been placed where the useless black piano trim is.
01-31-2019, 03:31 PM
#1311
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01-31-2019, 03:36 PM
#1312
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But I agree. That's a horrible space for it. What was wrong with where they have it on the 991? Besides nothing.
01-31-2019, 03:43 PM
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Then when the 997 came out, that 997 got tremendous bashing for basically the same type of throwback comments you are saying about 992. The 997.2, however, may go down, and deservedly so, as one of the best 911s ever. So perhaps the more vigorous the bashing, especially as it relates to retro gimmicks or back dating, is a good indication of just how well the car will be viewed down the road a few years.
This silliness happens every time Porsche comes out with a “new” 911 and it is typically spurred on by 911 neophytes owning the outgoing models . . .
01-31-2019, 03:52 PM
#1314
Were you around/driving 911s back then or are you just speaking in retrospect. I remember well when the 996 came out as I purchased 1 996 NA and 3 996tts new. The 996 got tremendous bashing back then.
Then when the 997 came out, that 997 got tremendous bashing for basically the same type of throwback comments you are saying about 992. The 997.2, however, may go down, and deservedly so, as one of the best 911s ever. So perhaps the more vigorous the bashing, especially as it relates to retro gimmicks or back dating, is a good indication of just how well the car will be viewed down the road a few years.
This silliness happens every time Porsche comes out with a “new” 911 and it is typically spurred on by 911 neophytes owning the outgoing models . . .
People like to chide those that don't like the new car as being biased by whatever they currently own, but I find funnier the people who simply think Porsche can do no wrong and everything they spin out is gold.
01-31-2019, 04:12 PM
#1315
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Originally Posted by Doug H
Were you around/driving 911s back then or are you just speaking in retrospect. I remember well when the 996 came out as I purchased 1 996 NA and 3 996tts new. The 996 got tremendous bashing back then.
Then when the 997 came out, that 997 got tremendous bashing for basically the same type of throwback comments you are saying about 992. The 997.2, however, may go down, and deservedly so, as one of the best 911s ever. So perhaps the more vigorous the bashing, especially as it relates to retro gimmicks or back dating, is a good indication of just how well the car will be viewed down the road a few years.
This silliness happens every time Porsche comes out with a “new” 911 and it is typically spurred on by 911 neophytes owning the outgoing models . . .
Then when the 997 came out, that 997 got tremendous bashing for basically the same type of throwback comments you are saying about 992. The 997.2, however, may go down, and deservedly so, as one of the best 911s ever. So perhaps the more vigorous the bashing, especially as it relates to retro gimmicks or back dating, is a good indication of just how well the car will be viewed down the road a few years.
This silliness happens every time Porsche comes out with a “new” 911 and it is typically spurred on by 911 neophytes owning the outgoing models . . .
Is there any possible way in your mind that any company, or say a car company doesn't score home runs on any new updated products they have?? Is it always the newest is the best and will sell more than the outgoing model??
I think there are quite a few car companies that have stumbled along the way have they not??
Whether someone was around driving around on their 3rd 996 doesn't mean anything. If anything it means you're looking through a less critical lens because Porsche can do no wrong in your eyes.
Why can't people with opinions here discuss in peace and somehow have to be personally attacked for their likes and dislikes??
As if someone's opinion is more valid based on the number of cars they have owned?? Seems to be for you as you constantly mention it.
01-31-2019, 04:35 PM
#1317
Were you around/driving 911s back then or are you just speaking in retrospect. I remember well when the 996 came out as I purchased 1 996 NA and 3 996tts new. The 996 got tremendous bashing back then.
Then when the 997 came out, that 997 got tremendous bashing for basically the same type of throwback comments you are saying about 992. The 997.2, however, may go down, and deservedly so, as one of the best 911s ever. So perhaps the more vigorous the bashing, especially as it relates to retro gimmicks or back dating, is a good indication of just how well the car will be viewed down the road a few years.
This silliness happens every time Porsche comes out with a “new” 911 and it is typically spurred on by 911 neophytes owning the outgoing models . . .
There may come a time when we reminisce about the 992 or 992.2 as the 'last true 911,' before the invasion of EVs, and the death of the MT/Flat 6 combo that has carried this car to greatness from the early days.
You don't know how good something is until it disappears.
01-31-2019, 04:44 PM
#1318
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Were you around/driving 911s back then or are you just speaking in retrospect. I remember well when the 996 came out as I purchased 1 996 NA and 3 996tts new. The 996 got tremendous bashing back then.
Then when the 997 came out, that 997 got tremendous bashing for basically the same type of throwback comments you are saying about 992. The 997.2, however, may go down, and deservedly so, as one of the best 911s ever. So perhaps the more vigorous the bashing, especially as it relates to retro gimmicks or back dating, is a good indication of just how well the car will be viewed down the road a few years.
This silliness happens every time Porsche comes out with a “new” 911 and it is typically spurred on by 911 neophytes owning the outgoing models . . .
01-31-2019, 05:42 PM
#1319
Were you around/driving 911s back then or are you just speaking in retrospect. I remember well when the 996 came out as I purchased 1 996 NA and 3 996tts new. The 996 got tremendous bashing back then.
Then when the 997 came out, that 997 got tremendous bashing for basically the same type of throwback comments you are saying about 992. The 997.2, however, may go down, and deservedly so, as one of the best 911s ever. So perhaps the more vigorous the bashing, especially as it relates to retro gimmicks or back dating, is a good indication of just how well the car will be viewed down the road a few years.
This silliness happens every time Porsche comes out with a “new” 911 and it is typically spurred on by 911 neophytes owning the outgoing models . . .
I also LOVED the 996.2 , 997 and 997.2 because this was the period of time where every new 911 was making logical forward progression without ANY trade offs. They were simply producing a better performing and aesthetically pleasing sports car with each new generation.
01-31-2019, 07:28 PM
#1320
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I'm trying to find something I like. Just can't warm up to it. Usually with me, I know right away if something moves me. This does not.
That black plastic front and rear just don't do it for me.
Some new video:
That black plastic front and rear just don't do it for me.
Some new video: