STG

You make a great point ...

K-A

WAIT.... are you suggesting BLOTARD's trade war that single handedly destroyed the nearly record performance that the same guy he accused of being "Kenyan" gifted us, isn't just another "path to winning?" I'm down the equivalent cost of a new 911 in just a month.. debt is at record levels.. I have to bail farmers out because they're hurting from said trade war.. said failed trade war has cost us TRILLIONS in GDP and market value.. market is having its worst December in a century.. worst year in 10 years (e.g Bush 2).. trade deficit is its worst in 10 years (e.g Bush 2).. predictions of a recession next year.. Powell, who Dear Covfefe Genius hand picked to replace that pesky Yellen (whose careful approach netted massive returns.... screw her) is proving just as reckless and inept.. govt. shutdown piling on to the red. Can you tell I'm sick and tired of all this winning?

Those darn Democrats who for the last two years controlled zero branches of govt. All their fault.

garfunkle

These cars have grown on me quite a bit.

garfunkle

What do you think the cost is going to be to replace all that sh!tty plastic on the bumper with carbon Fiber?

garfunkle

STG

911247365

I am just not clear where this new 911 is aiming at. If you want a sports car, then the 992 is definitely less sporty and more blingy. If you want a tech car, well, the 992 isn't it. If you want that classic 911 look, again, the 992 isn't it.

I am in the market for a nice piece of automotive engineering for my 40th birthday. It was going to be a paint to sample turbo S. Now it looks like its either going to be a 991 Turbo S (if I want to save money and get a sports car) or a Tesla Roadster (if I want something fast, new, good looking, and electric..as long as its fun to drive).

I just dont like this dilution of the 911. If you want to make a fast motor car, make that. If you want to make an electric/tech/luxury car, make that. Why take a fast motor car and put it in the body of an electric/tech/luxury car..then its neither. Which is the 992, in my opinion.

And if porsche is heading in this direction, I don't want to spend my hard earned money in the brand. I'd rather know what I am getting from a company proud of its cars, not a company that is altering the direction of its product lines.

Argon_

You could always build up a 997.2 or 991. There's a tuning shop that sells a 4.25L stroker kit for the 9A1.

dkhm3

yes, this about sums it up, i think the 992 is a compromised sports car. It's gotten even bigger and nearly as heavy as my m3 sedan. Feels like Porsche really wanted to make a 3,800 lb awd, e-hybrid like the nsx, and the gasoline models are fillers for now.

Porsche911GTS'16

Agreed. From a design perspective (both interior and exterior), to my eye, the 992 is a vehicle searching for an identity. As I have said in previous posts, the 911 has hit puberty. The 913 would have been a better model number. I am sure it will post faster lap times than its predecessor but speed and handling alone do not make a car a great sports car.

Bash Hat

K-A

FINALLY a real side by side pic! Any more angles of these two?

I think the rear is the strongest angle of the 992 when judging against the 991. It looks a liittle tidier and slicker, but at the same time more awkward. Hard to place how I feel about it next to the 991. I REALLY dislike the 991.2 taillights with that odd "arrow cut" on the inner corners, as it just looks fussy and pointlessly clunky to me (especially next to the streamlined 992 tails), but otherwise the 991 rear holds its own quite well. The side view is essentially identical between the two, so the "better/worse" factor there is essentially negligible (I love the 991 greenhouse and currently like it more than the slightly narrower 992 greenhouse as I just find the formers perfectly proportioned and authentic 911, but even that is small beans in the grand scheme). The front I think is where the 991 looks strongest next to the 992.

One thing I'm really bummed about re: 992 rear, is how they've made the rear window larger and more generically "square" shaped. It doesn't have that tight and dramatic "tapered cut" towards the bottom which is a 911 trademark. Obviously Porsche sacrificed that in order to have the glass flow right into the engine vents. That part is a very big downgrade out back on the 992 imo.

Archimedes

Rocket_boy

Agreed,....great pix that highlights the differences. To me the 991.x has a very nice "curvaceous" look to the rear,....with a waist that looks just a bit tighter in appearance and more in proportion. The 992 just looks bigger and more bulbous, not quite as flattering to my eye...



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Ikone

Well, from those two pics (Rocket_boy), it looks like the 992 will be less maintenance.