Originally Posted by STG (Post 15514074)

How much you think Audi relies on the R8?

You are correct, it has gotten Porsche to this point, but will be less of a reliance in the future.

What will take Porsche down is the billions they're gambling on electric. Public opinions, government regulations, and agenda change with the weather and economic times. Could be a gamble that consumers never fully embrace.

I think the electric cars will greatly under perform.

Originally Posted by Marv (Post 15514501)

All one needs to do is look at the advertising Porsche does for each marque. That will tell you exactly who they are reaching and what they are marketing those products as.

Porsche marketing is not a slouch organization. They know full well what they are doing.

As for your prediction that Porsche will fail due to its electric car gamble, you might look at what the whole auto industry is doing. Over $90 billon is pledged globally by the industry in the EV market. There is no choice. Governments are forcing the phase-out of internal combustion engines, either by outright bans in cities or regions or by taxing you out of them. At some point fuel will become so expensive that driving them (where allowed) will be a luxury.

I don't believe the "weather" nor "economic times" are going to derail the electric car and there is at least $90 billion dollars riding on that bet.

Originally Posted by Marv

All one needs to do is look at the advertising Porsche does for each marque. That will tell you exactly who they are reaching and what they are marketing those products as.

Porsche marketing is not a slouch organization. They know full well what they are doing.

As for your prediction that Porsche will fail due to its electric car gamble, you might look at what the whole auto industry is doing. Over $90 billon is pledged globally by the industry in the EV market. There is no choice. Governments are forcing the phase-out of internal combustion engines, either by outright bans in cities or regions or by taxing you out of them. At some point fuel will become so expensive that driving them (where allowed) will be a luxury.

I don't believe the "weather" nor "economic times" are going to derail the electric car and there is at least $90 billion dollars riding on that bet.

Originally Posted by STG (Post 15514619)

I guess my assumption is that fuel will be reasonably priced for a LONG time. Look how much the US is producing. Also, nobody mentions what kind of fuel it will take to make all this electricity and resources for batteries and eventual disposal or recycling. The average person can't afford these expensive "feel good" purchases.

Since August, these companies have lost $1.2 TRILLION $$$$ in market cap. The electric investment isn't too big to fail. The EURO's will manage to drive and regulate their own economies and industries into the gutter.

$90 BILLION Isn't that much in the big scope of things spread across many companies.

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Originally Posted by bonn72 (Post 15514941)

I bet the Taycan will sell like crazy. The amount of Model S cars I see in this area is nuts. It will fill a void. There is no mass produced electric sports car out there right now. Model S doesn't fit that category. And the new Tesla one will be 200K+.

Originally Posted by bonn72 (Post 15514965)

Yes, very true. You have to get it right. I mean the new Tesla Roadster coming in 2020.

Originally Posted by bonn72 (Post 15514941)

I bet the Taycan will sell like crazy. The amount of Model S cars I see in this area is nuts. It will fill a void. There is no mass produced electric sports car out there right now. Model S doesn't fit that category. And the new Tesla one will be 200K+.