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Old 10-12-2018, 05:16 PM
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Default If this is true, maybe not the smartest move for the 992 revenue

I think there are likely just as many folks out there that pony up for the Carrera "S" because of its wide body appearance as there are folks who are after the performance. So I think Porsche could lose $$$ by making all cars wide body, since not as many people are likely to bite on the "S" when they can get the same look for less. On the other hand, maybe the wide body look will sell more standard 992's and make up the difference. I'm sure they've done their market analysis...BUT remember how Apple shot themselves in the foot when they introduced the iPad mini at a lesser cost than the standard iPad... just a thought

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You mean '4S'. The standard Carrera and Carrera S have had narrow bodywork going back to the 997...
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
You mean '4S'. The standard Carrera and Carrera S have had narrow bodywork going back to the 997...
yep
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There will be a greater HP difference between Carrera and Carrera S in the 992 then in the 991. So using that as the key differentiator.
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Originally Posted by wishman44
There will be a greater HP difference between Carrera and Carrera S in the 992 then in the 991. So using that as the key differentiator.
Yeah, but will that be enough to offset the $14,000 price difference? Let's face it, most folks who own these cars aren't like "us".... lots of folks want the look, and the performance of the base model is awesome, esp. when considered to previous generations.
When you think about it:
What percentage of owners are on this forum?
Belong to PCA?
Have ever taken a high performance course?
Will ever see the track?
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It’s likely a cost savings driven initiative. Porsche AG would save a ton by only having to design, build and stock for one body-type (the wide body). I doubt any lost sales would exceed the cost savings. I expect Porsche profits to go up. You’ll then hear Marketing tell us that it was done to improve rear traction and stability LOL
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Originally Posted by wishman44
There will be a greater HP difference between Carrera and Carrera S in the 992 then in the 991. So using that as the key differentiator.
yup. Too many people went base C2 in 991.2.
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The average person has no idea about narrow body, wide body, etc ... Base models are more price points, and they still make plenty of $$ on them .... Not sure the concern??

It's a cost savings move and a one size fits all solution. They've even designed the initial model to accommodate a battery for hybrids.
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porsche does nothing that causes revenue loss. i imagine they analyzed this and expect some net benefit either in sales or production efficiencies that lead to more profits.
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All wide body, all turbo. Wonder what the actual "turbo" model brings to the table except a wing.

Pretty sad.
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Originally Posted by Catorce
All wide body, all turbo. Wonder what the actual "turbo" model brings to the table except a wing.

Pretty sad.
Agree. A lot of what was exclusive and special about the 911 Turbo and Turbo S was lost when all of the Carreras went turbo. And the wing on the Turbo/TTS is kind of rinky dink and doesn't look great.
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According to the recent Car and Driver article, the 8 speed PDK is yet another interesting change from the 991 that does not necessarily improve the performance of the car and is rather done to save space and to allow room for a hybrid "engine," even though it does not sound like there is going to be a hybrid in the 992.1 generation of the car (from what I have read, anyway). It is looking more and more like Porsche is going the way of Mercedes and BMW and becoming a mass producer of luxury sports cars, down to the (supposedly) cheaper interior. I know some people actually prefer the narrower body of the non-4, non-GTS models. So much for that option!
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Seems like they always go wider with every iteration, wider and bigger! The cayman is the new 911!
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Originally Posted by race7117
Seems like they always go wider with every iteration, wider and bigger! The cayman is the new 911!
cayman feels bigger than a 993 or older 911.
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Originally Posted by Porsche911GTS'16
According to the recent Car and Driver article, the 8 speed PDK is yet another interesting change from the 991 that does not necessarily improve the performance of the car and is rather done to save space and to allow room for a hybrid "engine," even though it does not sound like there is going to be a hybrid in the 992.1 generation of the car (from what I have read, anyway). It is looking more and more like Porsche is going the way of Mercedes and BMW and becoming a mass producer of luxury sports cars, down to the (supposedly) cheaper interior. I know some people actually prefer the narrower body of the non-4, non-GTS models. So much for that option!
+1 for making room for electric hybrid powertrain for next iteration.


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