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This is a .2 upgrade not a new car. I had a 2024 GT3 and sold it for 290,000 which was 75,000 over original sticker. Price increase is Porsche trying to get some of the price back to them and not to the dealers. We set the price by what we are all willing to pay. Hopefully the ADM will be less on the 992.2s, but it depends on the buyers, not the sellers. I will say that I think the improvements are actually pretty good. As an owner of a new S/T I can see how they transferred some of the S/T over to the Touring with the lightweight package. If the new one drives anywhere like the S/T, then it is worth the price increase. Just my thoughts.
I found the ST lacking, both in get up and go and agility.
I'm sorry personally I think Porsche has lost it. To me there is not a model left, other then maybe a GT4RS/Spyder RS, that is worth the cost new. Just not interested anymore they have become far too expensive for what they are.
A reasonably built base 992 now costs over $150k. It wasn’t that long ago, a base 911 was right at $100k.
I think it's a great car but Porsche has really been gouging its pricing on all their cars . I think most of us accepted low ball trade numbers and paying full MSRP during the pandemic and supply shortage but those days are over . I remember a time when dealerships had lot car Gt3's . Now it's unheard of and a person almost has to know a secret hand shake to allow them to do you a favor to take a pile of money . It gets old .
Agree - It definitely is old but my view (means nothing to anyone but me) is this is the factory's reaction to the willingness of buyers to give into the dealers and pay so much more than the MSRP. If I were Porsche and had this market data I'd raise the prices also - right up to the point of diminishing returns.... this is all driven by what people are willing to spend
1). I have no idea what the ratio is between MSRP buyers and ADM buyers (I’m the latter, and I won’t **** everyone off by revealing the extent of my ADM depravity). Maybe it’s 20/80? Or 30/70? In any case, if the average 992.1 ADM was, call it, $75,000. Going forward, a small group will be paying more, and a larger group might well be paying a little less. Plus, 992.1 owners will likely retain more value than they might other wise had the price walk been modest and total array of new features been more inspiring. Porsche is certainly giving the dealer a smaller bite of the apple.
2). The $40,000 price walk might be worth it if Porsche has somehow figured out how to make the engine’s not burn oil. I woke up to this on my Starbucks run this morning.
I found the ST lacking, both in get up and go and agility.
Impressed you were able to drive one since they're still almost impossible to get. I only had my 991.2 Speedster and my 992.1 GT3 to compare it to, but I find it to be superior to any of the other GT cars. Although I'm sure the GT3 RS with PDK is faster on the track, but I'm just partial to manuals which all my 911s have.
I must be in the minority: I like it and will definitely be trading up. The front fascia is a huge improvement and the shortened gear ratios will make it more peppy. Touring, sofas, back seats, PTS, ceramics and MT. Heck, I might buy two.
I agree on everything excep I would nix the back seats and I would want Leichtbau package. No kids and saves weight with no back seats, would rather have all the open space for luggage, other stuff. I have to admit tho that the thought of getting the regular GT3 with wing and Wassach package does intrigue me. The white with Wass and magnesium gold rims looks stunning and resale would be a slam dunk. But same for the GT3T. And I am not tracking the car.
My only comment is I looked in my garage and saw my 991.2RS 😁 and realized I wasn't changing cars again. Good news is used previous generations of the GT3/GT3RS are not going down in price anytime soon.
1). I have no idea what the ratio is between MSRP buyers and ADM buyers (I’m the latter, and I won’t **** everyone off by revealing the extent of my ADM depravity). Maybe it’s 20/80? Or 30/70? In any case, if the average 992.1 ADM was, call it, $75,000. Going forward, a small group will be paying more, and a larger group might well be paying a little less. Plus, 992.1 owners will likely retain more value than they might other wise had the price walk been modest and total array of new features been more inspiring. Porsche is certainly giving the dealer a smaller bite of the apple.
2). The $40,000 price walk might be worth it if Porsche has somehow figured out how to make the engine’s not burn oil. I woke up to this on my Starbucks run this morning.
the excessive oil consumption was one of the main reasons I decided to let go of my .1. Every 2-3k miles of hard driving not even track time required regular half quart top ups.
the excessive oil consumption was one of the main reasons I decided to let go of my .1. Every 2-3k miles of hard driving not even track time required regular half quart top ups.
not an issue for those owners that only do 2k miles a year. Most won't daily their GT3
The 992.2 should have a slightly softer suspension that could make it a better daily / weekend car
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