911ST
08-04-2023, 11:30 AM
#1816
Racer
In the dreamworld where I can actually get an allocation - here's my build:
PRA2KCZ4
MSRP $345k
PRA2KCZ4
MSRP $345k
08-04-2023, 11:49 AM
#1817
Rennlist Member
Same. $344,840. 🤦🏽♂️
Sucks you can’t spec the ceramica wheels and have the black interior or have the PORSCHE script without adding heritage interior.
Least not on the config. CXX would gladly take the money though.
Sucks you can’t spec the ceramica wheels and have the black interior or have the PORSCHE script without adding heritage interior.
Least not on the config. CXX would gladly take the money though.
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08-04-2023, 12:13 PM
#1818
Rennlist Member
Any idea if PTS will be available for the S/T? Someone said all PTS allocations were taken for 2024?
08-04-2023, 12:14 PM
#1819
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AlexCeres (08-04-2023)
08-04-2023, 12:15 PM
#1820
Burning Brakes
This car is an overpriced let down. Original S/T was a track focused version of the S, now it’s a more streetable car than an RS… wrong direction based on the ‘heritage’.
It’s not limited enough to make it special, nearly 2000 which is probably almost half of WW tourings?
I get these will all sell out, but for $300k+, at face value it’s a rip off.
It would have been more exciting for it to be under 3k lbs
It’s not limited enough to make it special, nearly 2000 which is probably almost half of WW tourings?
I get these will all sell out, but for $300k+, at face value it’s a rip off.
It would have been more exciting for it to be under 3k lbs
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08-04-2023, 12:20 PM
#1821
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Current thinking on a spec.
This is what I'm currently thinking on the spec: https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PR58N319
Comments/suggestions welcome.
Comments/suggestions welcome.
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08-04-2023, 12:29 PM
#1822
US dealers have not officially received allocations yet. Many dealers know they're getting at least 1, larger ones know they're getting 2+ based on their Sport Classic allocation figures.
In summary, every dealer is getting 1, many larger stores are getting 2, maybe top 10 stores could get 3. So the guys getting phone calls already are the top 1 or 2 customers for the store so the dealers are comfortable making those calls.
As much as so many want to believe in here, the vast majority of these will go to customers at MSRP. This is a "reward" car from a dealer to their best 1 or 2 clients. Of course there will be a few stores that will auction off to the highest bidder but that won't be the norm.
In summary, every dealer is getting 1, many larger stores are getting 2, maybe top 10 stores could get 3. So the guys getting phone calls already are the top 1 or 2 customers for the store so the dealers are comfortable making those calls.
As much as so many want to believe in here, the vast majority of these will go to customers at MSRP. This is a "reward" car from a dealer to their best 1 or 2 clients. Of course there will be a few stores that will auction off to the highest bidder but that won't be the norm.
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08-04-2023, 12:30 PM
#1823
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This is what I'm currently thinking on the spec: https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PR58N319
Comments/suggestions welcome.
Comments/suggestions welcome.
https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PR4TQQQ0
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08-04-2023, 01:18 PM
#1825
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08-04-2023, 01:18 PM
#1826
Addict
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This car is an overpriced let down. Original S/T was a track focused version of the S, now it’s a more streetable car than an RS… wrong direction based on the ‘heritage’.
It’s not limited enough to make it special, nearly 2000 which is probably almost half of WW tourings?
I get these will all sell out, but for $300k+, at face value it’s a rip off.
It would have been more exciting for it to be under 3k lbs
It’s not limited enough to make it special, nearly 2000 which is probably almost half of WW tourings?
I get these will all sell out, but for $300k+, at face value it’s a rip off.
It would have been more exciting for it to be under 3k lbs
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DontLift (08-04-2023)
08-04-2023, 01:25 PM
#1827
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I’m not buying the cool aid about the 4.2L engine being incompatible with emissions…..if per the other posts, porsche can get away with higher emissions in the GT division because
1- GT cars are a separate low volume division
2-by the end of the decade all Porsches other than 911 variants will be full electric.
3- many Carrera models will be hybrid.
With all that Porsche can make a 4.2L NA GT car for either the 992.2 or the 994.1 models.
I agree with those who are disappointed that porsche didn’t do something more special with the ST like a 4.2L, given the 60 year opportunity.
personally, I’m still satisfied with my 991.2 GT3.
With the crazy ADMs and allocation games, I’m not going to buy another new Porsche GT car unless it has both the double wishbone AND a 4.2L NA engine. Just one or the other is insufficient for me to endure the inevitable dealer games and ADM.
1- GT cars are a separate low volume division
2-by the end of the decade all Porsches other than 911 variants will be full electric.
3- many Carrera models will be hybrid.
With all that Porsche can make a 4.2L NA GT car for either the 992.2 or the 994.1 models.
I agree with those who are disappointed that porsche didn’t do something more special with the ST like a 4.2L, given the 60 year opportunity.
personally, I’m still satisfied with my 991.2 GT3.
With the crazy ADMs and allocation games, I’m not going to buy another new Porsche GT car unless it has both the double wishbone AND a 4.2L NA engine. Just one or the other is insufficient for me to endure the inevitable dealer games and ADM.
Last edited by Drifting; 08-04-2023 at 01:28 PM.
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08-04-2023, 01:47 PM
#1828
for those of you not willing to wait....check this out. Just popped up on BAT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...t3-touring-46/
08-04-2023, 02:11 PM
#1829
Rennlist Member
I’m not buying the cool aid about the 4.2L engine being incompatible with emissions…..if per the other posts, porsche can get away with higher emissions in the GT division because
1- GT cars are a separate low volume division
2-by the end of the decade all Porsches other than 911 variants will be full electric.
3- many Carrera models will be hybrid.
With all that Porsche can make a 4.2L NA GT car for either the 992.2 or the 994.1 models.
I agree with those who are disappointed that porsche didn’t do something more special with the ST like a 4.2L, given the 60 year opportunity.
personally, I’m still satisfied with my 991.2 GT3.
With the crazy ADMs and allocation games, I’m not going to buy another new Porsche GT car unless it has both the double wishbone AND a 4.2L NA engine. Just one or the other is insufficient for me to endure the inevitable dealer games and ADM.
1- GT cars are a separate low volume division
2-by the end of the decade all Porsches other than 911 variants will be full electric.
3- many Carrera models will be hybrid.
With all that Porsche can make a 4.2L NA GT car for either the 992.2 or the 994.1 models.
I agree with those who are disappointed that porsche didn’t do something more special with the ST like a 4.2L, given the 60 year opportunity.
personally, I’m still satisfied with my 991.2 GT3.
With the crazy ADMs and allocation games, I’m not going to buy another new Porsche GT car unless it has both the double wishbone AND a 4.2L NA engine. Just one or the other is insufficient for me to endure the inevitable dealer games and ADM.
08-04-2023, 03:06 PM
#1830
Drifting
I’m not buying the cool aid about the 4.2L engine being incompatible with emissions…..if per the other posts, porsche can get away with higher emissions in the GT division because
1- GT cars are a separate low volume division
2-by the end of the decade all Porsches other than 911 variants will be full electric.
3- many Carrera models will be hybrid.
With all that Porsche can make a 4.2L NA GT car for either the 992.2 or the 994.1 models.
I agree with those who are disappointed that porsche didn’t do something more special with the ST like a 4.2L, given the 60 year opportunity.
personally, I’m still satisfied with my 991.2 GT3.
With the crazy ADMs and allocation games, I’m not going to buy another new Porsche GT car unless it has both the double wishbone AND a 4.2L NA engine. Just one or the other is insufficient for me to endure the inevitable dealer games and ADM.
1- GT cars are a separate low volume division
2-by the end of the decade all Porsches other than 911 variants will be full electric.
3- many Carrera models will be hybrid.
With all that Porsche can make a 4.2L NA GT car for either the 992.2 or the 994.1 models.
I agree with those who are disappointed that porsche didn’t do something more special with the ST like a 4.2L, given the 60 year opportunity.
personally, I’m still satisfied with my 991.2 GT3.
With the crazy ADMs and allocation games, I’m not going to buy another new Porsche GT car unless it has both the double wishbone AND a 4.2L NA engine. Just one or the other is insufficient for me to endure the inevitable dealer games and ADM.
Karl Ludvigsen once proclaimed “Excellence Was Expected;” is it still?
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