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There is no way it is molded in. Porsche would not pay for an entire new rear fascia tool for one market on such a low volume vehicle. (I work in auto, know how this works). It's most definitely a separate part, the question is how is it attached. Double stick tape and fasteners or both. My concern is if it is fastened, will the holes be behind where the plate would go. Fingers crossed that is the case.
Okay..well the person inspected it in person and told me but you keyboard cowboys must know better.
Okay..well the person inspected it in person and told me but you keyboard cowboys must know better.
Interesting - well I'm picking my car up in Germany. Guess they will deliver it with a euro bumper so the euro plate will fit, and then they will replace it with a US molded bumper after I drop it off...
The bumper piece didn’t really bother me until I saw this quality drill job from Champion. I’m hoping it’s just their temporary plate is off sized here or a optical illusion due to the camera, otherwise I’m taking a chainsaw to my bumper on day 1.
The bumper piece didn’t really bother me until I saw this quality drill job from Champion. I’m hoping it’s just their temporary plate is off sized here or a optical illusion due to the camera, otherwise I’m taking a chainsaw to my bumper on day 1.
Looks like there is some play in their ego plate to adjust it side to side to make it line up centered.
Looks like there is some play in their ego plate to adjust it side to side to make it line up centered.
Yes exactly. Easy fix on that.
Assuming the rear bumperettes are there for US cars is to make sure the license plate lights shine right on the plate and not disperse instead. Who knows lol
Assuming the rear bumperettes are there for US cars is to make sure the license plate lights shine right on the plate and not disperse instead. Who knows lol
Eh, doubtful. They don’t look to reflective (especially painted).
I think others are right that these are for the 5mph rules.
Interesting - well I'm picking my car up in Germany. Guess they will deliver it with a euro bumper so the euro plate will fit, and then they will replace it with a US molded bumper after I drop it off...
Tourist plate for Euro delivery is identical size as US plates.
Why would Porsche make a separate complete back bumper only for the US, when they can simply add the little bumper thing like they do on other models??
Exactly, completely agree. The turbo has the same/similar thing. I looked at one recently. It's definitely a separate part just no idea how it is attached.
i payed and saw quite some molds , never that large as the ones needed to make a back bumper (my molds are not automotive molds), so yes i have an idea about how mold injection works, what i dont know about is how much an automotive mold costs but we have you here to tell us about this, so please tell us, i am interested to hear about that
They are over 7 figures believe it or not and very complicated tools when you think of the size of them. Often multiple lifters are required because of the complicated draft angles as they wrap around the sides of the vehicle, all the attachments required on the b-side for inserts like lamps, grille textures, and mold in color lower accent cladding/diffusers. Its much cheaper for that plate bracket, probably sub $100k.
It's also not just the fixed cost you have to think about. It's also complexity at the factory and supply chain with another fascia to account for as well as development costs. It's fairly simple to do a post operation on a bumper to punch out/laser cut the required holes for an add on. Many vehicles do this on the front bumper for example where front amber reflex/side markers are required for NAFTA and not Europe. Instead of making an all new bumper, OEMs essentially modify the bumper so they can insert the side marker so they don't need another fascia tool.
They are over 7 figures believe it or not and very complicated tools when you think of the size of them. Often multiple lifters are required because of the complicated draft angles as they wrap around the sides of the vehicle, all the attachments required on the b-side for inserts like lamps, grille textures, and mold in color lower accent cladding/diffusers. Its much cheaper for that plate bracket, probably sub $100k.
It's also not just the fixed cost you have to think about. It's also complexity at the factory and supply chain with another fascia to account for as well as development costs. It's fairly simple to do a post operation on a bumper to punch out/laser cut the required holes for an add on. Many vehicles do this on the front bumper for example where front amber reflex/side markers are required for NAFTA and not Europe. Instead of making an all new bumper, OEMs essentially modify the bumper so they can insert the side marker so they don't need another fascia tool.
do they produce the molds in china or in europe ? just curious
08-28-2021, 07:31 PM
, never that large as the ones needed to make a back bumper (my molds are not automotive molds), so yes i have an idea about how mold injection works, what i dont know about is how much an automotive mold costs but we have you here to tell us about this, so please tell us, i am interested to hear about that
