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mrmojom3 06-20-2017 01:37 AM

17 992.2 vs. 15 991.1S Resale Question
 
Browsing at 14 and 15 C2S pricing is mid to high 80's. I'm starting to see a couple 17 C2 drop into the $85k to $90k range. While I'm not looking to start a discussion of which is the better car, I did start to think about which is the better value. I have driven them both, and love them each for different reasons. So then next decision point is resale value.

Will a $85k 991.2 base depreciate at a similar amount as a $85k 14 991.1S with similar options? While a 991.1 base seems to depreciate faster than a 991.1S, the 991.2 does have similar performance as the 991.1S and offers PASM standard. So it some ways they have similarities.

Any opinions? And is anybody else cross shopping these two cars? Thanks.

Dewinator 06-20-2017 01:53 AM

Just completely avoiding the .1 vs .2 comparison, cars depreciate steeply at first and then less steeply over time. So, an older car you buy for $X will do better than a newer car for $X.

john weires 06-20-2017 02:01 AM

Agree with above reply. The 991.1 has already depreciated more because it is older. The naturally aspirated 991.1's might hold up better over time, but this is only a guess.

visitador 06-20-2017 02:05 AM

991.1S values are holding because 997.2S prices are going up. Maybe the NA effect. Just my opinion.

Will a 991.2 base depreciate faster than the NA S? Only time will tell

911seeker 06-20-2017 08:19 AM

In the initial first 2-3 years they should behave similarly (lower % depreciation applied to higher MsRP for the .1 S vs the opposite for the .2'base).

longer term, who knows... but the NA will be more of a rarity an thus more desirable in 10 years plus in my opinion

mrmojom3 06-20-2017 02:07 PM

Thanks all for the responses. I think the other factor in the depreciation curve is warranty. My hunch is these cars will take a bit of a dip when the warranty runs out. I think I remember a chart in a youtube video where a guy mapped out the depreciation curve for the 997 and 991. There was the initial "new car sales depreciation dip", then a slow down curve, then a big drop then plateau when the warranty runs out.

For my previous years of owning M cars I figured out to buy 1 year old, keep to 3.5 years old, then sell before the warranty ran out.

manitou202 06-20-2017 02:48 PM

Get a 991.1 CPO. Then warranty is essentially the same. I picked up my 2014 991.1 C4S last year CPO for around $90k. I could probably sell it in the mid $80k's today. 991.1's are holding their value well and a 991.1 S or 4S will probably be worth more in the long run compared to a base 991.2.

MJBird993 06-20-2017 03:12 PM

Don't buy the .1 thinking that the NA will be worth more later. It won't. It will just be old. The .2 has more torque, more horsepower and will be slightly less old.

But really, you gotta buy what you like, for you, not for the next guy.

petee1997 06-20-2017 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by manitou202 (Post 14268056)
Get a 991.1 CPO. Then warranty is essentially the same. I picked up my 2014 991.1 C4S last year CPO for around $90k. I could probably sell it in the mid $80k's today. 991.1's are holding their value well and a 991.1 S or 4S will probably be worth more in the long run compared to a base 991.2.

Dreamer!!! All the guys that own a .1 think they are better and the .2 guys think the .2 is better.
In the end, the newer technology is always superior to the past, otherwise they would have kept the old engine. I have had both. Take my word, the .2 is the superior car.

R_Rated 06-20-2017 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by MJBird993 (Post 14268122)
Don't buy the .1 thinking that the NA will be worth more later. It won't. It will just be old. The .2 has more torque, more horsepower and will be slightly less old.

But really, you gotta buy what you like, for you, not for the next guy.

Untrue. The 993 is air cooled and "old" but worth much more than anyone expected just a few short years ago.

saeyedoc 06-20-2017 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by petee1997 (Post 14268370)
In the end, the newer technology is always superior to the past, otherwise they would have kept the old engine. I have had both. Take my word, the .2 is the superior car.

Not true, there's this thing called CAFE standards, it's about gas mileage.

Archimedes 06-20-2017 09:15 PM

Who cares which depreciates faster. You're taking about a few grand difference one way or the other, at the most. If that really matters to someone , a Porsche probably ain't the right car to be buying.

Dewinator 06-20-2017 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by Archimedes (Post 14268996)
Who cares which depreciates faster. You're taking about a few grand difference one way or the other, at the most. If that really matters to someone , a Porsche probably ain't the right car to be buying.

I totally agree with that. Why would depreciation difference equivalent to a single scheduled service be more important to you than which of two totally different engine styles you prefer?

AlBinVA 06-21-2017 07:59 AM

Agreed
 

Originally Posted by Archimedes (Post 14268996)
Who cares which depreciates faster. You're taking about a few grand difference one way or the other, at the most. If that really matters to someone , a Porsche probably ain't the right car to be buying.

There are very few cars out there that qualify as an investment. Buy the model that speaks to you and enjoy it.

MJBird993 06-21-2017 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by R_Rated (Post 14268484)
Untrue. The 993 is air cooled and "old" but worth much more than anyone expected just a few short years ago.

Untrue analogy. The 993 is a unique animal, low production numbers, and has not gone up in value over the past few years, just held steady (except maybe for the very rare models) and that's only for low mileage garage queens.

991s are a dime a dozen.


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