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I recently sold a 16 133 msrp with 3k miles- I bought it from a dealer who had it for months - sold it to a P dealer- very few people have north of 100k for used cars- JMHO- same dealer is selling me a 18 GTS for quite a deal.
I love the GTS but it is a niche car.
GLWS
Time is $$$. Don't lose a car OR a sale over a couple grand. As many have learned, it's more costly in the long run. Either getting less in a sale or paying more on a buy ... more often than not.
Time is $$$. Don't lose a car OR a sale over a couple grand. As many have learned, it's more costly in the long run. Either getting less in a sale or paying more on a buy ... more often than not.
I hear ya loud and clear. I lowered the price a smidgen to try and get some more action.
...One of the prospective buyers just purchased a 2015 GTS with 8k miles non cpo for 104k. The ad also said fresh rear tires, now that may raise a red flag for me...
I'm curious as to why that would raise a red flag with you? I've never owned a water-cooled Porsche that got more than 10,000 miles out of the rears. I replaced my GTS tires at 7800, iirc; whatever the exact mileage, it started with a "7". In fact, my 996 and 997 Turbos were 7000-ish mile rears cars. I once got 10,000 out of a 264hp 986S but this is what they looked like at 10,000 miles, and they never saw a track:
My GTS Pirellis did get a day of track use last August, but that was the final hundred or so miles of their lives; I was already planning to replace the following week.
Anyway, just wondering what you would think was happening to the car if the tires wore down fast? It seems to just be a function of rear- and mid-engine Porsche's to me. (I only did a test Launch Control start one time with the GTS, so it wasn't that.)
I would have been concerned that the tire replacement may indicate track time. It would make me inspect the pads and rotors for excessive wear.
A stock 991 911 can do a quick 1:39 (or less) lap at Road Atlanta. You have to go from 140+ mph to 20 mph in T-10a. That is a lot of heat and pad wear. You also hit the rev limiter about 12 times per lap.
There is a reality to your situation that you don't seem to have grasped. You have a nice car that you are selling after a short period of ownership and because of that you think it is worth more than what the market is telling you. You face the same depreciation issue as every other new car owner when they drive their car off the lot, which is awful, though more so for a short-term owner, but that's only part of it. You have apparently had several offers now so you have a sense of what the market for your car is, but you don't accept what the market is telling you because you think your car is worth more. That's your prerogative, but you won't sell your car that way and flogging it on these boards is unlikely to change that.
^^ Maybe, maybe not. If I didn't have a 991 and wanted one, I'd want a 3.8 GTS. And if I did, I'd want one with as low miles as possible. And with certain and without certain options. If the OP's lined up with the options I wanted, and the color I wanted, and he wouldn't budge on price, I'd pay a premium. Not sure how much (would largely depend on how long I'd been looking and how many "near misses" were also on the market for cheaper), but I'd not settle for second best to save 5000 or even 8000 bucks. I bought both my 996TT and 997TT at a reasonable premium because after months-long searches I finally found the car that met all my criteria (Sunroof Delete being the hardest) and I wasn't going to walk over 3-5,000 dollars. In the very early-2000s I wanted a Blue Turquoise 993C2 or C2S with black interior (See below). Held out for 18 months looking before finally giving up. But if one had turned up I'd have paid well over market.
In the end, Porsches are a ridiculous ripoff; 911s are a ridiculous ripoff within the Porsche continuum; and new Porsche 911s are crazy stupid. Yet nobody on here chided me for buying a new 911. So paying a much smaller premium (than the "new car smell" premium) to get a barely used but exactly or very nearly exactly what I wanted would make even more sense.
Now granted, that only works if a) somebody wants exactly what he wants, and b) nobody else is selling what he has at a cheaper price. I think there's a reasonable chance of a) happening over a six-month period. Somebody with definite ideas of exactly what he wants, who wishes he'd ordered a 991.1 when you still could but he didn't act fast enough at the time. So a barely used car at a bit of a premium would actually be attractive to him.
We'll see. If rxtrom isn't in a hurry may as well wait out the summer season and make sure it's advertised in several places.
05-19-2017, 08:23 PM
