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Just got a new 991.2, lusting after an M2, crazy?

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Old 04-27-2017, 10:13 AM
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Well. . having just moved out of a BMW let me count the ways why you shouldn't do this:
1)Interfaces are clunky - you have to do "2" of about anything from locking the doors to turning the car off
2)Finish doesn't match the finish of the Porsche's
3)Just won't get the handling that you have in the Porsche. While the engine and straight line drive is solid in the BMW, it is not a Porsche

I was an all in BMW guy from 1995 through 2006 - every series, M Cars etc. Left the brand . . experimented in 2015 and was sorely disappointed
Old 04-27-2017, 12:58 PM
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This can't be a serious question. There is only ONE reason to sell the 911 for an M2. Only if you can no longer afford the 911 and need the money. The 911 is special. The M2 is pedestrian. End of story.
Old 04-27-2017, 01:12 PM
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let me give my perspective
I have been lucky to own almost every sport car across multiple brands over the past 10 years, including e92 M3, f80 M3 , and F10 M5 , so I like bmw
I recently had a chance to test drive an M2 , and I came out saying, that this car is over hyped. It is not I did not like it , but I did not love it
I just put an order for an RS3
by the way I have a GOLF R that my son drives and he loves it
Old 04-27-2017, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by horsie
Hi all:
Currently drive a Mk VII Golf R and a 991.2 coupe, which I just got in February, both manual transmissions. Love them both, the R is a keeper for these reasons:
1) all-round all-weather versatility and practicality;
2) need 4 doors for my family and daily city driving duties;
3) AWD for the harsh snowy winters.
"Hey Horsie" (I feel odd writing that but hey, that's your screen name ;-)

Oddly I have had impure thoughts of trading my 991.1 for a 2017 Golf R... I know this is anathema here, but I've had a few issues with my 991.1 quality wise so I'm not "in awe", it's not super well perceived at work (yeah that's their problem but it's not always that simple), it's not used as it should be when I commute at 15 mph, and I also own a classic 911 so it's not like I'd be deprived of a good 911.

The attraction to the R is the Q-ship effect, the added practicality, but yeah mostly the fact that people won't look at my car twice wherever I park and it's still fun to drive. Can you expand on your experience in the R vs the 991 some more ? Thanks !
Old 04-27-2017, 01:44 PM
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Apples to Oranges. But if you get the M2, you should take comfort in knowing that it's faster around the track than a Macan Turbo. Just barely.

Get the car you want for the reasons you want. These are emotional decisions and what we say really should have no bearing on your decision. The only reason I'd choose an M2 over a Carrera would be if I simply couldn't afford the Carrera, but that's just me.
Old 04-27-2017, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bacura
This can't be a serious question. There is only ONE reason to sell the 911 for an M2. Only if you can no longer afford the 911 and need the money. The 911 is special. The M2 is pedestrian. End of story.
Nothing wrong with an M2 but I have never met any 911 owner who lusted after one. OTH I've met many M2 owners who aspired to own a 911.
Old 04-27-2017, 02:54 PM
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M2s are kind of girly. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Old 04-27-2017, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bacura
The 911 is special. The M2 is pedestrian. End of story.
Please, there is nothing special about a standard 911. Its a fine car, but its hardly extraordinary in any way. Its also massively overpriced.

The M2 at least offers excellent performance for the money.
Old 04-27-2017, 03:38 PM
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What you want is a 991.1
Old 04-27-2017, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Please, there is nothing special about a standard 911. Its a fine car, but its hardly extraordinary in any way. Its also massively overpriced.

The M2 at least offers excellent performance for the money.
I don't claim it to be a Ferrari but compared to an M2 it's special. Also, I believe most people think 911's are special---even if it's not a TTS. The average person that approaches me think my 911 is pretty special. Just not Ferrari/Maclaren special.
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Please, there is nothing special about a standard 911. Its a fine car, but its hardly extraordinary in any way.
😂

You thought you were in the Ferrari forum, right?
Old 04-27-2017, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 911seeker
😂

You thought you were in the Ferrari forum, right?
nope. I own 2 911s, I think they are good cars, but they are mass produced modern sporty cars, thats all. Just like an M2. there is no magic. Sorry if that offends you
Old 04-27-2017, 05:55 PM
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It doesn't, but I don't expect to find many people at a 991 forum that share your opinion... BTW, why do you own two "cookie cutter" 911s, if you don't mind my asking?

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Old 04-27-2017, 06:00 PM
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Moving to M2 is a downgrade. Sorry.

I am expecting a daughter this summer and need rear seats. Testdrove a M3 and couldn't wait to get back in my 991 GT3. The M DCT and steering feel are inferior.

At the very least I would have to switch to a 991 TT.
Old 04-27-2017, 06:01 PM
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The M2 will never amount to much beyond "average."

BMW has seen to that, and, continues to see to it.

BMW does not want the low profit margin M2 to ever challenge the high profit margin M3's and M4's. EVER. In any way, shape, manner or form. And you can see that philosophy reflected in the M2 components (i.e., engine and other elements of the car ) vis-a-vis the other M cars. The M2 is, in a manner of speaking, de tuned to meet that goal.

Which is also why they build so few of them. That is, they make more money devoting assembly line time to other 2 series cars.

The M2 is intended to satisfy the financial condition of entry level customers. Hoping that those customers will, eventually, buy an M6.

The 911 has no relationship to this approach.


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