ipse dixit

For half the price, and all the attributes of the M2, how about the new Civic Type R?

And, yes, I know the option of the ED is out of the question ...

golfnutintib

here ya go

m2 is a really nice car, and often more useful than a 991

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=196

LC991.2

One of the member's experience with M2

"Clearly you're bent out of shape about my ownership of the M2 and I don't get it?

I drove some very good twisty roads from Toronto to Pennsylvania last week with a group of 911 owners here on Rennlist.

At first in the less-tight twisty roads I was able to hang mid-pack etc. On the real tight and twisty sections using the DCT not so much. You know in a manual when you heel/toe downshift the car revs up and you can feel that engine breaking? With the DCT there's a disconnect as to its ability to engine break and keep power up and that's my feel HAVING DRIVEN THE M2. And the brakes are no where near as good as Porsche brakes.

One of the 911 guys took out my car on a twisty section and admitted manual would be the better choice. The car is still a great car but no 911.

I don't see any review where the reviewers compare the M2 to that of any 911. This is where my perceived differences lie in having owned a few 911's before the M2.

I've never said the car was crap, terrible etc. Its an awesome SEDAN and in its price point a great car. If you really want me to **** you off let's compare the DCT to that of the PDK...the DCT is still not as good."

I also read that driver seat is crooked and doesn't quite align with steering wheel.

bkrantz

You have a fun, cool, smaller car with practical tendencies and an awesome car that pegs the meter. Why sell the awesome car for something more like the smaller car?

cug

I looked at the M2 and they are in completely different segments.

The M2 is basically a hot hatch without the actual hatch, not even close in practicality compared to a Golf R and nowhere near as nice or exciting as the 911.

If your goal is to own as many high(ish) performance cars in your lifetime as possible, sure, go for it, why even ask here? If you want to enjoy a very special car, I really don't understand why you even consider this switch.

These two are not even in the same universe as overall concepts, so, either you did a complete mistake with the 911 and have buyers remorse, then go for it, the sooner the better, or you might be one of the people who are never happy with what they have and always look for better or different. It's an expensive attitude, but if you can – sure, boost the economy, get a used 991.2 on the market, buy whatever makes you happy (for now).

My main question is: why would you ask here? Nobody can look into your head and tell even where this desire is coming from.

philipatl

Cars are an enthusiast passion and there are many types for many needs. However; this swap - especially given the Golf ownership - is yes, crazy.

gregv8

FWIW, the car I traded in for the 911 was a 228i. Big step up. Through my 2-series ownership, I had the chance to drive the entire lineup, i.e. M235i and M2. They are all fantastic cars. Interestingly, the 228i felt the most natural, probably due to its perfect balance. It's one of those cars that connects with you intuitively within minutes. Mine had variable steering, just like on the 911. Very predictable handling. You never have to guess the boundaries of traction. You can put it sideways in every turn, and hold it. The downside of all of this is that my car just didn't have enough power. The M2 would have been ideal, and I considered it strongly before ordering my 911. (As well as the M4) But at the time (and probably still) it was impossible to get an M2 within a reasonable time, plus the 911 is a more long-lasting, classic car experience. It's in a different segment. You are a Porsche driver, with all the prestige that comes with. You're not here to do burnouts. But, considering where I come from, I appreciate what the OP is talking about.

jlee504

i was in the same place and had an M2 on order, i test drove it and immediately realized "wtf am I thinking" the M2 is a great car for its price but the 911 is just at a whole different level performance, looks, quality, everything.

doesn't even come close. Its nice but its not the same experience, I transferred my order to someone on this board and never looked back..

randr

Drove the M2 and 718S back to back in sept last year (for 3 days) - the 718S was in a different league in terms of fit, finish and feel.

Round track, 3s difference over about 65s..........in every facet, braking, engine response, handling the 718S wiped the M2.

The M2 is a good budget performance car - if you look at it that way and accept it for what it is - you'll be happy

The 991.2 911 is in a different league to the 718S again

points

Yes.

Grunty

I'm a little confused. Why would you have bought a 911 if you were lusting after the m2? Why didn't you just buy an m2?

phow

Based on the OP's post describing the two cars, I would say the M2 sounds right for you. You need to go with your gut and drive what you want to drive. Clearly that is the M2.

Personally, I could never see trading my 911 for any M car but I also don't share your same perspective and experiences. You will never convince a loyal group of 911 owners that it is the right choice but you also don't need to. You just need to convince yourself and it sounds like you have already done that.

996_soon

OP - it sounds like you already made up your mind but you are looking for confirmation perhaps? Go for the M2, and if you think it was a bad move, then get back into a 911. I also have kids that fit comfortably in my 911, once they outgrow it, well, they can take turns in the passenger seat. Good luck on whichever route you take.

9914s

Get the M2.

mac10

Personally I would buy a Golf R if I were buying in that segment. As far as the "M2 or 911" question, seriously? I'll bet even on the BMW forum, if you pitched that same question most people would choose the 911 and think it's a ridiculous question.

I get it though, some of my hardened BMW 'M' friends(and many auto journalists) have such a hard-on for these cars, they think they are better than they really are.