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Old 10-15-2018, 09:01 PM
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This issue seems to be specific to the 991. I have had a 987 Boxster and currently a 958 Cayenne. Neither of those cars had/has interior defects. Actually I feel the Cayenne is the most solidly build car I ever owned. Door panels don't move at all.
A search of the 981 forum did not reveal a posting about door panels. Looks like there is something on the design and/or installation that causes the warping. If it is a continuous issue, then Porsche should do some re-engineering or have a band-aid solution to stop future warps. Can't expect owners to keep buying new panels once warranty and/or goodwill stops.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:22 PM
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the 718 and the 981 have the same issue (coming from my SA)
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:03 PM
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There are 2 long threads on this on planet-9. The 981s have identical door panels to the 991 and are having the same panel separation. No full leather door panels on that forum have had this issue to my knowledge, but 981s also have a much smaller sample size of full leather interiors.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by vodkag View Post
I call BS on what the sales rep told you.....

warranty paid parts STILL carries the same warranty (1 or 2 years i forgot)

I am sure of that because my HPFP went out and was replaced under recall/warranty by Porsche in my 987.2. the HPFP went out AGAIN within 12 mos and it was all covered under the parts warranty (parts and labor, plus towing etc.)
I'm not sure why he even brought that up. The service records I obtained when I bought the car shows one panel replaced 3 years ago, the other 26 months ago. Its almost like he was trying to anticipate an argument for why they should be covered.
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Old 10-19-2018, 02:48 PM
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I suggest everyone file a complaint on the door panels to the https://www.nhtsa.gov

This is safety related since it involves the airbag.

I KEEP SEEING POSTS ON THE PANEL DETACHING OR COMING UNGLUED. THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

THEY ARE NOT GLUED SO DO NOT TRY TO GLUE IT BACK DOWN OR YOU RISK THE AIRBAG NOT DEPLOYING CORRECTLY.
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Old 10-19-2018, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 125shifter View Post
I suggest everyone file a complaint on the door panels to the https://www.nhtsa.gov

This is safety related since it involves the airbag.

I KEEP SEEING POSTS ON THE PANEL DETACHING OR COMING UNGLUED. THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

THEY ARE NOT GLUED SO DO NOT TRY TO GLUE IT BACK DOWN OR YOU RISK THE AIRBAG NOT DEPLOYING CORRECTLY.
Do you know with certainty or are you speculating? I was under the impression the side curtain airbag deploys from the plastic breakaway panel at the front of the door card leaving the top portion of the door card in tact.
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Old 10-19-2018, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dkmesa View Post
Do you know with certainty or are you speculating? I was under the impression the side curtain airbag deploys from the plastic breakaway panel at the front of the door card leaving the top portion of the door card in tact.
Were it says "airbag" isn't where the bag is it's at the top back of the card.
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Old 10-19-2018, 04:12 PM
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Were it says "airbag" isn't where the bag is it's at the top back of the card.
I wonder if the plastic piece that the dealer proposes gluing the warped part of the panel to is designed to displace when the airbag deploys. Seems odd that the panel would not be glued to the plastic from the factory - I was under the impression this failure occurs because of adhesion failure.
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Old 10-20-2018, 11:43 AM
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I have my own pics of my 997 crash which I posted earlier showing the air bag deployment and I found these on the Wrecked Exotics with only one car showing deployment from the door panel and not from the gap between the panel and the window.



The only pic I found with the side airbag coming out of the door not at the window.













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Old 10-20-2018, 07:06 PM
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Not convinced any of those pictures provide evidence that gluing down the door panel would interfere with airbag operation.
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Old 10-20-2018, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dkmesa View Post
Not convinced any of those pictures provide evidence that gluing down the door panel would interfere with airbag operation.
To each their own, but I’m alive because of my 997 head curtain airbag so I don’t see the risk being worth the consequences.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:29 PM
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I just came down with this malady this week. Way out of warranty on my 2012; original owner.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cmb13 View Post
I just came down with this malady this week. Way out of warranty on my 2012; original owner.
Not something that usually just “pops” up but rather, slowly progresses. If yours came on suddenly, might be something else? Also, were your panels leather? Seems to been next to nonexistent on the leather panels, for some reason...

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Old 01-12-2019, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dom991.1 View Post

...Also, were your panels leather? Seems to been next to nonexistent on the leather panels, for some reason...
From what I've seen, I agree with you. I haven't seen a single 991 leather door panel bulge, but I've witnessed quite a few of the standard panels do it to varying degrees. I noticed it on a Guards Red '14 I was test driving and highly considering, and it was one of the deciding factors in holding off on that car. Once you notice it, you can't not see it.

I ended up finding a '13 with the leather option, and the panels are flawless with absolutely no signs that they will ever bow up (at least not yet).
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dom991.1 View Post

Not something that usually just “pops” up but rather, slowly progresses. If yours came on suddenly, might be something else? Also, were your panels leather? Seems to been next to nonexistent on the leather panels, for some reason...
Mine is not leather. It's possible it come on more gradually and I didn't notice it; it is on the passenger side, and my wife noticed it when she got in. She might not have been in the car for the past few weeks or so.
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