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Old 03-31-2017, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 911boy
You know what I meant. Rears wear out faster than fronts and not many people are going to replace four when fronts have 50-60% left. Are PS2 and 4 not same category?
That was what I had in mind indeed: Right now while my front tires are still "good to go" for about 3000 miles in terms of groove depth, they are super dry and hard, and I feel they tremendously lack grip. I checked lately, and without surprise, found out they are from 2009.

The back tires, on the other hand, are from 2015 (they were replaced by the garage who sold the car to me last year, prior the sale).

Thus I would say the difference in grip between front and back is horrendous. My assumption is therefore that this grip gap is larger now than if I replaced the front tires by PS4S, while keeping the back ones in PS2. But maybe I'm wrong, hence my initial post...
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Originally Posted by Spike S
I'm currently running PS2 on four corners
If you value your life, change those darn tires man. And that's especially true if you like to push the car (even a little). Tires over 5 years old are crap, even if they look new. And yours are probably much older than that. Remember what happened to Rodas (and Walker)? It was attributed to old tires. And he was a darn good driver... who should have known better. Rubber degrade with age, and turns what is a very forgivable tire when new, into one that lets go all of a sudden without a hint of doing so. If you want to skimp on 2 tires, it's your life. Good luck.
Old 03-31-2017, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by elp_jc
If you value your life, change those darn tires man. And that's especially true if you like to push the car (even a little). Tires over 5 years old are crap, even if they look new. And yours are probably much older than that. Remember what happened to Rodas (and Walker)? It was attributed to old tires. And he was a darn good driver... who should have known better. Rubber degrade with age, and turns what is a very forgivable tire when new, into one that lets go all of a sudden without a hint of doing so. If you want to skimp on 2 tires, it's your life. Good luck.
There seems to be a misunderstanding: I'm not pondering on replacing the front tires or not, I'm just wondering if I should replace them with PS4S or PS2 (to match the back tires, which are basically new).
Old 03-31-2017, 02:50 PM
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To anticipate some questions that the last message may raise: The reason why I'm considering replacing them with PS4S rather than stick to PS2 is twofold:

1. Because then when the back tires are done, I'd replace them with PS4S and therefore would end up with PS4S on the four corners. Which I believe is better than PS2, as established by this thread and the various reviews and tests I read.

2. PS2 in 235/35 starts to be difficult to find, they're not available in my go-to online shops (not the tire rack, I'm not in the US). Wouldn't be surprised that by the time I have to replace the back tires, PS2 in 305 isn't available anymore. And I'd end up with PS4S in the back and PS2 in the front.
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Go PS4 in 245
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Why 245 and not 235...?
Old 03-31-2017, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike S
There seems to be a misunderstanding
Nope. PS2s are very old tires. Check the 4-number DOT production code (first 2 numbers denote week, and last 2 year of production) on your 'almost new' tires, and most likely they're over 5 years old. They're not going to blow up on you, but even if they look almost new, rubber is significantly degraded already. If you use the car to putt around, then maybe keep them (although you'd have diminished braking distances as a result). But if you push the car at all, I wouldn't. Just get a full new set of tires. That way, your car will always have the grip and (safe) handling it was designed to have. Good luck.
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Anyone aware of tire trade-in options for new cars? My GTS arrives end of April and would love to swap the P-Zeros for MPS4S. Up-charge expected.

Dealer had no interest in doing this
Old 03-31-2017, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by elp_jc
Nope. PS2s are very old tires. Check the 4-number DOT production code (first 2 numbers denote week, and last 2 year of production) on your 'almost new' tires, and most likely they're over 5 years old.
Sorry if I wasn't clear: When I said above they are from 2015, I meant it based on that 4-number DOT production code. They were fitted on the car in march 2016, and got about 3000 miles since then.
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Originally Posted by ltdodge
how about the new Continental EXTREMECONTACT SPORT Max Performance Summer tires? they have a higher wear rate of 340.

how do they compare in noise and performance?
It looks like we are the only ones who are thinking about Continentals, in a sea of Michelin fans. For some reason, I seem to like this brand. Maybe because of prior experiences in a Boxster and a couple of Jeeps. They seem to be more forgiving for daily driving in rough roads. I guess, I'll wait for some real world comparison reviews
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Originally Posted by Spike S
Why 245 and not 235...?
245 and 305 is what 20" 911s wear now.
Old 04-03-2017, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Monetthecat
Anyone aware of tire trade-in options for new cars? My GTS arrives end of April and would love to swap the P-Zeros for MPS4S. Up-charge expected.

Dealer had no interest in doing this
Same, but I'll admit its interesting, the 2018 GTS configurator now has the car wearing michelins, which you can see clearly on the sidewall...now I know porsche developed the car with pirelli but thats strange...
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Originally Posted by 911boy
245 and 305 is what 20" 911s wear now.
I'm on 19".
Old 04-03-2017, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 911boy
245 and 305 is what 20" 911s wear now.
This is what I have. The only bad thing is the PS4s are over the 410.00 (tire rack) so don't qualify for the road hazard warranty..
Old 04-03-2017, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Austin-Guy
This is what I have. The only bad thing is the PS4s are over the 410.00 (tire rack) so don't qualify for the road hazard warranty..
$500 up here. EVERYTHING is $500!


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