Headlight Sensor(s) Locations
#1
Headlight Sensor(s) Locations
Of the 2 non-solid areas on the windshield, near the rearview mirror, what sensor controls what?
There's the round one in the middle (slightly difficult to see). And the larger pyramid shaped one to the right.
I had my windshield replaced recently and now my headlights come on too soon (not dark enough).
I asked the SafeLite guy what was the hardest part about changing the windshield. His reply: "putting the rear view mirror electronics back in place".
I brought the car to the dealership for its 10,000 mile service, asking them to check this. Their report: "works properly, no problem found". This is after I told them that the headlights were on for the 25 mile drive to the dealership, from my house at 8:30 - 9:00am under blue skies. Not one cloud in the sky.
I've searched here and Google for help on this assembly. Before I take things apart, I'm hoping someone might be able to provide some insight beforehand.
Thanks - Jim
There's the round one in the middle (slightly difficult to see). And the larger pyramid shaped one to the right.
I had my windshield replaced recently and now my headlights come on too soon (not dark enough).
I asked the SafeLite guy what was the hardest part about changing the windshield. His reply: "putting the rear view mirror electronics back in place".
I brought the car to the dealership for its 10,000 mile service, asking them to check this. Their report: "works properly, no problem found". This is after I told them that the headlights were on for the 25 mile drive to the dealership, from my house at 8:30 - 9:00am under blue skies. Not one cloud in the sky.
I've searched here and Google for help on this assembly. Before I take things apart, I'm hoping someone might be able to provide some insight beforehand.
Thanks - Jim
#3
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The brightness sensor for detecting sky brightness is actually the roughly 1" blackish-red rounded rectangle on the dash just inside the windshield (below your photo, on the actual dashboard).
The inverted flattened V you see at the right of your photo is the camera used for automatic high-beams. It looks for the headlight and taillight pattern of other cars.
The sensor in the center of your photo is an IR diffraction sensor with an infrared LED emitter (top clear part) and sensor (bottom darker part) that controls the automatic rain-sensitive wipers.
The inverted flattened V you see at the right of your photo is the camera used for automatic high-beams. It looks for the headlight and taillight pattern of other cars.
The sensor in the center of your photo is an IR diffraction sensor with an infrared LED emitter (top clear part) and sensor (bottom darker part) that controls the automatic rain-sensitive wipers.
#4
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Do you by any chance have something sitting on your dashboard covering the rectangular sky sensor? If you didn't realize that is where it was, then anything in the bottom center windshield area, like a radar detector or dash cam mounted low on the windshield would occlude it and would trigger the headlights turning on.
Looking at the photo more closely it looks like I see something below the mirror. What is that? A mirror-mounted detector shouldn't cause a problem I'd think unless it sits above the sensor.
Looking at the photo more closely it looks like I see something below the mirror. What is that? A mirror-mounted detector shouldn't cause a problem I'd think unless it sits above the sensor.
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The brightness sensor for detecting sky brightness is actually the roughly 1" blackish-red rounded rectangle on the dash just inside the windshield (below your photo, on the actual dashboard).
The inverted flattened V you see at the right of your photo is the camera used for automatic high-beams. It looks for the headlight and taillight pattern of other cars.
The sensor in the center of your photo is an IR diffraction sensor with an infrared LED emitter (top clear part) and sensor (bottom darker part) that controls the automatic rain-sensitive wipers.
The inverted flattened V you see at the right of your photo is the camera used for automatic high-beams. It looks for the headlight and taillight pattern of other cars.
The sensor in the center of your photo is an IR diffraction sensor with an infrared LED emitter (top clear part) and sensor (bottom darker part) that controls the automatic rain-sensitive wipers.
My automatic high-beams and rain-sensitive wipers still perform as expected (properly).
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#8
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Yes, that is the one that controls headlights on/off.
#9
Do you by any chance have something sitting on your dashboard covering the rectangular sky sensor? If you didn't realize that is where it was, then anything in the bottom center windshield area, like a radar detector or dash cam mounted low on the windshield would occlude it and would trigger the headlights turning on.
Looking at the photo more closely it looks like I see something below the mirror. What is that? A mirror-mounted detector shouldn't cause a problem I'd think unless it sits above the sensor.
Looking at the photo more closely it looks like I see something below the mirror. What is that? A mirror-mounted detector shouldn't cause a problem I'd think unless it sits above the sensor.
#10
Nordschleife Master
give the windshield a real good cleaning inside and out?
#11
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Yeah, this is curious. Do the headlights ever turn off? It's not 100% clear from your post so I just want to make sure. In cases where they are turned on when they shouldn't, I'd be curious to see how it would respond to shining a bright light directly on the sensor.
I'm far from saying this happened in your case, but on a Toyota of mine a decade ago a Safelight guy sliced the front edge of the dash with the trimming knife they use to trim away the old sealant. They didn't say anything about it but I luckily spotted the 3 inch slit when I was picking up the car and was checking their work! They said "oops, we didn't notice we did that!". Right. I would very much doubt this the windshield guy had a errant knife that slipped in under the edge of the dash and cut the sensor wire... but so far that is the only remaining thing I'm coming up with (other than making sure you checked the obvious "duh" things like having the headlight switch turned to "on" instead of "auto").
I'm far from saying this happened in your case, but on a Toyota of mine a decade ago a Safelight guy sliced the front edge of the dash with the trimming knife they use to trim away the old sealant. They didn't say anything about it but I luckily spotted the 3 inch slit when I was picking up the car and was checking their work! They said "oops, we didn't notice we did that!". Right. I would very much doubt this the windshield guy had a errant knife that slipped in under the edge of the dash and cut the sensor wire... but so far that is the only remaining thing I'm coming up with (other than making sure you checked the obvious "duh" things like having the headlight switch turned to "on" instead of "auto").
#12
While I have cleaned the outside since having the windshield replaced, I can't say for sure that I have cleaned the inside. Although it doesn't look dirty, that is certainly easy enough to do. I'll give that a try.
Thanks - Jim
Thanks - Jim
#13
Yeah, this is curious. Do the headlights ever turn off? It's not 100% clear from your post so I just want to make sure. In cases where they are turned on when they shouldn't, I'd be curious to see how it would respond to shining a bright light directly on the sensor.
I'm far from saying this happened in your case, but on a Toyota of mine a decade ago a Safelight guy sliced the front edge of the dash with the trimming knife they use to trim away the old sealant. They didn't say anything about it but I luckily spotted the 3 inch slit when I was picking up the car and was checking their work! They said "oops, we didn't notice we did that!". Right. I would very much doubt this the windshield guy had a errant knife that slipped in under the edge of the dash and cut the sensor wire... but so far that is the only remaining thing I'm coming up with (other than making sure you checked the obvious "duh" things like having the headlight switch turned to "on" instead of "auto").
I'm far from saying this happened in your case, but on a Toyota of mine a decade ago a Safelight guy sliced the front edge of the dash with the trimming knife they use to trim away the old sealant. They didn't say anything about it but I luckily spotted the 3 inch slit when I was picking up the car and was checking their work! They said "oops, we didn't notice we did that!". Right. I would very much doubt this the windshield guy had a errant knife that slipped in under the edge of the dash and cut the sensor wire... but so far that is the only remaining thing I'm coming up with (other than making sure you checked the obvious "duh" things like having the headlight switch turned to "on" instead of "auto").
In searching for solutions (Google), I did see where other manufacturer's offer and adjustment for this feature (similar to our adjustment for the auto-rain sensing wipers, but was a user selectable setting). I failed to find that Porsche offers such an adjustment or setting. Is this correct? No setting to adjust headlight ON/OFF sensitivity?
#14
Turn lights off?