dgp

Any mentions for what the base 911.2 has done on the Nurburgring? I think Porsche already claimed that 718 Boxster S has done 7:42 (16s quicker than previous model) and it is likely the 718 Cayman S will do a few seconds better. Is it possible for its smaller cousin to outperform the base 991.2 at the ring?

LnC993

IIRC, that's pretty close to GT4's time. And if that's accurate, that's pretty impressive.

Now I'm wondering what a 991.2S with RWS and SPASM can do at Nurburgring.

dgp

"The new 718 Boxster S also crushes its predecessor in the uphill sections of the Nürburgring, lapping 16 seconds quicker (7 minutes, 42 seconds)."

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...er-first-ride/


Can a 718 Boxster S really be faster than a 991.2 around the ring?
Given the times I'd guess 718 Cayman S will be just as fast as GT4...

991.2 S was claimed to do 7:30 (tires not as sticky as GT3s).

Archimedes

There has not been a verified time for the 718 posted yet; the numbers you're referencing are Porsche claimed numbers, which have repeatedly been proven to be unrepeatable in the wild. Let's wait and see what someone actually posts in the real world before jumping to any conclusions.

dgp

Agree, but also we have not seen verified claims for 7:20 GT3 RS time or 7:25 GT3 lap time either. Most of the real world lap times have been lower than what Porsche claims due to conditions, drivers and a variety of other factors.

Dewinator

Porsche is smart and learned a lesson from Nissan on the ring times... if times achieved with a totally doctored car are just as good for your fans to ********** to at home, why not skip it all and use a made up number?

Archimedes

That's my point. Porsche claimed times are useless and shouldn't be compared to times for other cars that were set in the real world. Don't compare a claimed 7:42 with the 718 to an actual 7.42 set for the GT4. Porsche claimed a sub 7:40 for the GT4. Also, the 7:58 for the prior Boxster S referred to above is Porsche's claimed time. Best verified, posted time for that car is 8:04. Need to make sure that you're comparing apples to apples.

R_Rated

What video game are you basing this on? I thought GT4 didn't have these cars yet???

dgp

I thought Porsche claimed 7:40 for GT4, I was not saying 718 Boxster S is the same (according to claimed times it is ~2s slower), but 718 Cayman S may be as the coupe was also faster than the Boxster for previous gen as well.

Archimedes

My guess is that the 718 platform is going to run an upper 7:40's verified lap time. Which would still be very fast, but I'd be shocked if it truly runs a 7:42 in street trim.

008

The last one I saw video confirmation of was the 991.1 C2S at 7.37/8. Seems like since then they just put out numbers in interviews with no verification. As mentioned, can't say I blame them when others put out ludicrous numbers that seem to defy physics and logic.

Dodaleca

Unitl the last month or so there were speed restrictions on certain portions of the Nurburgring where they had to slow down and not run full bore due to one or more large crashes there. Now that more safety fencing has been put up there are times when there are no speed restrictions on any portions of the track.


The lap times posted by manufacturers in that time frame with the track speed limits were supposedly estimated based on what the times were on the non-restricted portion of the track and extrapolated out to a full lap time.


Now the lap times can actually be measured for a full wide open lap and not estimated.


Wasn't the rear weight gain one of the reasons for the larger standard rear tire size on the 991.2 versus the 991.1?

subshooter

Yes.