Dalema

Edit - wrong place.

Bemo

Don't like the idea of the same displacement motor across the Base, S, and GTS line-up.
Thrilled that we could score an NA GTS

drgek

What seems to be missing in this discussion is the acknowledgement that Porsche, like all other manufacturers, needs to produce engines that are compliant with ever more draconian mileage and emissions statutes throughout all their markets. Even Ferrari has now turbocharged their lineup.

STG

^^ yes , valid point. We've discussed that to death in other posts. Always turns into a political discussion with hurt feelings when the truth be told. One that also brings out the guys that only post when there's drama to be had.

By the way, look at all the enthusiasts snatching up NA 458's. One car that will shoot through the roof in the next 10+ yrs.

STG

These NA's are nice

There's a 475HP 991 GT3 out already. 3.8 flat 6

RS = 500 HP 4.0 flat 6

rkwfxd

I have no interest in a GT3. I'd love to get an R but that's not going to happen.

No, the best car for me, that is actually attainable for me, will be a .2 GTS next year. I still have a few doubts that it will be produced so I may have to "settle" for a 2018 C2S configured to my specs. I am totally convinced I will like the .2 better than my current 2016 .1.

And I really Really REALLY like the .1.

rkwfxd

Weren't the previous Base, S, and GTS Carreras all using the same displacement - 3.4?

I know it was/is different on the Caymans and Boxsters but I thought the Carreras used the same displacement.

STG

991.1

3.4 Base

3.8 S/GTS/etc ...


Spend some time driving a .1 GTS. You'll fall in love depending how you roll. Guys look for different things out of their cars though.

Bemo

Dang it, STG, you aren't making waiting for our car any easier.
How I roll? Revving and high RPMs. The break-in period will suck.

STG

The sound and feeling is like no other.

Those gear shifts after those high revs is unlike anything else.

Having driven a GT3 hitting 9K is quite a treat too.

NoGaBiker

Not since 1998 (and there was no GTS at the time). All regular 911 versions used the same displacement from '65 thru '98. RS models got different displacement (2.7 when everything else was 2.4; 3.0 when everything else was 2.7; 3.8 when everything else was 3.6.) But that ended with the 2005 introduction of 997S (3.8) and base (3.4), replacing the 996 where everything was 3.6 (and the only "S" was the C4S, with the same displacement.)

Rezus

Not sure why people are surprised by the same engine in GTS. This is exactly what porsche wanted to do, lower cost and meet emission demands while making cheaper, more power, making a different engine for GTS which is really a nice S would have been a dumb decision.
I too am a fan of NA and managed to pick up a GTS before it was all done and over with, I had no illusion that the next GTS would be turbo and very similar to S engine. The way porsche sells GTS is by adding desirable option to S as standard, a few black accents and better looking exterior with a small bump in power. If you think about it that is exactly what 991. GTS was.

oalvarez

So, so true and not hard to understand. Have a look at what's been happening in the motorcycle industry....the same darn thing. Manufacturers are using water cooling on so many powerplants so to produce faster bikes while meeting much stricter emmision standards. It just is what it is, the competition for fastest lap or 0-60 times is real.

shewu

Minor correction: 997.1 and 997.2 base cars are 3.6. 997.1 base engine is carryover from 996 (though revised from M96 to M97 at some point for MY06). 997.2 base engine is the DFI 3.6, which was later downsized/"rightsized" to 3.4 for the 991.

Jabs1542

Not exactly, I had a base 996 (C4) that was a 3.4L engine (300 hp). I think the engine differences started showing up in the 996s.