Would you/do you regret having NO sunroof in your 991 ?
03-22-2018, 12:19 PM
#151
I looked for a used car without a sunroof as I never use them and don't like look of the cars with sunroofs (well like them less). Plus as already noted they add weight in the wrong place and reduce rigidity
03-22-2018, 02:59 PM
#152
Three Wheelin'
For future resale value? Do you consider paying $2K (or whatever it costs) for something, to get maaaaybe $500 back, a good return? Every individual option (with maybe a very very, slight few) depreciates. A sunroof is no exception, you will lose money on that sunroof at the time of selling the car.
Resale ease? I can give you that, as long as you sell private party (if you trade in to a dealer, you will lose the ENTIRE amount of what you paid for that sunroof), but even there, lots of people look for solid roof 911's (I should know, I tried my hardest to find one).
Resale ease? I can give you that, as long as you sell private party (if you trade in to a dealer, you will lose the ENTIRE amount of what you paid for that sunroof), but even there, lots of people look for solid roof 911's (I should know, I tried my hardest to find one).
03-22-2018, 03:04 PM
#153
Three Wheelin'
Can't remember. I got that info reading a European Porsche magazine regarding weight for the sunroof. It list a lot of parts which include, rails, braces, motor, extra layers of cover, hinge mechanism for wind deflectors etc...... and it comes to about 30kg....all on the very top of the vehicle.
03-22-2018, 03:12 PM
#154
Three Wheelin'
^how does that affect handling anywhere but track? There is no such thing as "sunroof delete". Its an option.
03-22-2018, 03:18 PM
#156
Three Wheelin'
03-22-2018, 03:39 PM
#157
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Raise your hand please if you're a good enough driver to make a material difference in lap times with vs without a sunroof. Then please tell me how you've maxed out your 911's capabilities on a track but don't race for a living and have a dedicated track car.
If you really want to drop weight in the car then drop that pesky HVAC and those heavy airbag devices. We all know the stereo sucks so get rid of that too. But better not get a half cage either or we'll heckle you for that too.
03-22-2018, 03:44 PM
#158
Three Wheelin'
But the rigidity of a street car... ANY 911 gets you 98%.... the other 2% is fluff. I say it over and over.... we all agonize here on the forum over micro details that really don'y matter. If you have a preference then seek out your druthers but don't justify it to the rest of us because of something you heard about somewhere.
Raise your hand please if you're a good enough driver to make a material difference in lap times with vs without a sunroof. Then please tell me how you've maxed out your 911's capabilities on a track but don't race for a living and have a dedicated track car.
If you really want to drop weight in the car then drop that pesky HVAC and those heavy airbag devices. We all know the stereo sucks so get rid of that too. But better not get a half cage either or we'll heckle you for that too.
Raise your hand please if you're a good enough driver to make a material difference in lap times with vs without a sunroof. Then please tell me how you've maxed out your 911's capabilities on a track but don't race for a living and have a dedicated track car.
If you really want to drop weight in the car then drop that pesky HVAC and those heavy airbag devices. We all know the stereo sucks so get rid of that too. But better not get a half cage either or we'll heckle you for that too.
03-22-2018, 04:05 PM
#159
I think you’d have to know what you’re doung to appreciably have different lap times... but 60lbs up top I feel like most people could feel that it’s a bit more rolley even if they don’t have the skills to take advantage of it in terms of lap times.
03-22-2018, 06:59 PM
#161
But the rigidity of a street car... ANY 911 gets you 98%.... the other 2% is fluff. I say it over and over.... we all agonize here on the forum over micro details that really don'y matter. If you have a preference then seek out your druthers but don't justify it to the rest of us because of something you heard about somewhere.
03-22-2018, 07:23 PM
#162
Burning Brakes
I don't much like sunroofs, so I left mine off, along with the additional weight up top (yes I know I probably won't feel it, but physics says it can't be doing any good) and the$1500-2000 cost. Haven't missed it for a millisecond.
03-22-2018, 07:30 PM
#163
Racer
I rarely use a sunroof. Really didn't want one in the new GTS. Wife's only input on ordering the car was it "needed a sunroof". I reluctantly got the sunroof.
03-22-2018, 08:01 PM
#164
I've had 911s with and without them, prefer without if it's an option
I rarely used the sunroof when I had it, and both the glass and non-glass versions look very weird to me with the sunroof open as the actual part of the sunroof that opens goes on top and slides back on the car, plus I had a concern with rattles on the glass option
On other cars it's great to have as it opens up the interior even closed if it's actual glass, but for a sports car my main focus and enjoyment is for the driving dynamics
I rarely used the sunroof when I had it, and both the glass and non-glass versions look very weird to me with the sunroof open as the actual part of the sunroof that opens goes on top and slides back on the car, plus I had a concern with rattles on the glass option
On other cars it's great to have as it opens up the interior even closed if it's actual glass, but for a sports car my main focus and enjoyment is for the driving dynamics
03-22-2018, 09:55 PM
#165
Three Wheelin'
I've had cars both with/without sunroof. I almost never fully opened the sunroof. I'd sometimes raise the back to take advantage of ventilation. My current 991.2 C2 GTS is sunroof delete. 
