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3 of the 6 previous owners could have been the same person - just flagged as a new owner due to a title change which could have been a refi or loan payoff.
My vehicle's carfax shows 4 previous owners but have records indicating the first 2 on the report were the same owner and 3and4 were the same owner.
I test drove this car the last time Gossett had it for sale ! It’s a nice spec but we couldn’t get to an agreed price so I walked.
Incredible example and good deal considering I've seen similar year, spec builds and examples sell for that much, and prices haven't really changed in the year+ since I was on the market.
I would be ALLLL over that if I was in the market. The only things I'm not crazy about are the wheels and clear rear lights. With black wheels, I'd think about flying back to WPB to buy yet another 911 from said city.
Sale Pending already. Nice buy...even with the "Oreo-kit cup!"
I thought I would pass this one along. 2013 Carrera S in GT Silver, full leather, manual trans, sport chrono, sport exhaust, full leather 18 way seats Aerocup kit. . Around 8,000 miles. Can be bought for around
$72,500. Not a steal but a very unusual and desirable combination. I saw this car in person and it is really nice. They say it was traded in at this Ferrari/Maserati dealer.
Another HFS was a 2013 or 2014 C2S with X51 last summer and 20,000 miles; if I remember right, that guy got $76,000. It didn't have PCCB or 18-ways though; I think it was a $130k build or so? There aren't many X51-equipped cars out there
Carrera S with narrow body and X51 combination is a homerun.
Carrera S with narrow body and X51 combination is a homerun.
Agree. It's not a narrow body, looks-wise, but is a bit narrower in the hips than the GTS. Hence it has a lower coefficient of drag, .32 versus .33 is my recollection. Maybe it's. 33, so at higher speeds it is a bit faster than the GTS. And a percentage of buyers (myself included) don't want the standard Alcantera seats that so many GTS are equipped with, vs the S, and the S body is one tick lower drag coefficient than the GTS or GT3. For some buyers, the S with X51 PowerKit is more desirable than the GTS.
Thoughts on this one? Client advisor suggested I take it out for a spin...maybe a loaner while my 2013 991.1 S is serviced and final check is done before my CPO runs out at month's end in Jan 2019.
Thoughts on this one? Client advisor suggested I take it out for a spin...maybe a loaner while my 2013 991.1 S is serviced and final check is done before my CPO runs out at month's end in Jan 2019.
PDK without sport chrono is a deal-breaker for me, plus a $106K sticker price -> $99K used price on a base Carrera puts it firmly in "Not Hot" in my book.
It is a pretty car though... Agate over black with satin wheels is a great combo.
PDK without sport chrono is a deal-breaker for me, plus a $106K sticker price -> $99K used price on a base Carrera puts it firmly in "Not Hot" in my book.
It is a pretty car though... Agate over black with satin wheels is a great combo.
Appreciate the thoughts...notice the lack of SC. As said it was just a lot vehicle pointed out as I discussed having to bring my 2013 991.1 in for its final service prior to my CPO running out. My questions would be 1) are those PCCBs? If so pluses vs minus of those [also wonder why someone would option those on a base 991.2 at that cost!] 2) No Sport Chrono but can it be retrofitted? Ala Suncoast maybe? 3) No PSE but have done a PSE retrofit on my 991.1 so am sure on a 991.2 not too difficult no? 4) Is this price point a bit much especially given the imminent release of allocations of the 992s to dealers in a few months? 5) Offer was to pay and have the CPO extended...didn't know the dealer could do that? At what price point? Likely cheaper than moving into the 991.2 they are floating around me and my service visit I would think! No?
Otherwise it is a close mirror to my 991.1 so that brings the question also IS an upgrade worth it? One thing I do notice on my 991.1 is that I do drive it in Sport almost all the time due to the need to get the NA engine up there in revs and not feel a bit of a lag (yes its a Carrera and fast enough but its a something Ive heard from other 991.1 PDK owners) when driving normally and at road speeds (the legal ones). So I've heard the 991.2 turbo engine torque band is a lot better and the base cars are almost as quick as the my 991.1 S. Otherwise I've personalized/individualized my car a little bit starting with CF interior OEM trim inside, IPD plenum upgrade, Akrapovic Ti cat back exhaust (best and hardest upgrade to justify but it does every time I hit the sport PSE button), PSE retrofit, Gunmetal Forgestars F14 wheels in gunmetal (thanks to a fellow RL's), GTS black rear grille, Moon-roof retrofit, Vorsteiner CF rear spoiler, Escort MAX Radar Hardwired, 991.2 Steering wheel retrofit, Sport Design Front bumper, and Techart CF matte black GT3 Sport mirror upgrade. I think that's about it! LOL Only thing I haven't done is tune it...looked at Cobb and the DFE suspension module but not sure if needed and bang for the buck vs upgrading. )
So my question to myself and the forum is are these 991.2's equal to the 991.1s and given the upgrades what would these cars look like equivalent price point (my 2013 991.1 has about 29k miles on it currently so I think given its current state a valuation of mid $60s isn't outrageous no?). I do agree $99k for a 2018 991.2 base seems a bit much even a one owner clean/clear car. A GTS would be perfect probably.
Only you can decide if you prefer the newer fi over na. That said, I can’t see where it’s worrh 30k over the nice car you already have.
SC cannot be added on the 991 and adding PSE is not inexpensive.
Originally Posted by mdrobc1213
Appreciate the thoughts...notice the lack of SC. As said it was just a lot vehicle pointed out as I discussed having to bring my 2013 991.1 in for its final service prior to my CPO running out. My questions would be 1) are those PCCBs? If so pluses vs minus of those [also wonder why someone would option those on a base 991.2 at that cost!] 2) No Sport Chrono but can it be retrofitted? Ala Suncoast maybe? 3) No PSE but have done a PSE retrofit on my 991.1 so am sure on a 991.2 not too difficult no? 4) Is this price point a bit much especially given the imminent release of allocations of the 992s to dealers in a few months? 5) Offer was to pay and have the CPO extended...didn't know the dealer could do that? At what price point? Likely cheaper than moving into the 991.2 they are floating around me and my service visit I would think! No?
Otherwise it is a close mirror to my 991.1 so that brings the question also IS an upgrade worth it? One thing I do notice on my 991.1 is that I do drive it in Sport almost all the time due to the need to get the NA engine up there in revs and not feel a bit of a lag (yes its a Carrera and fast enough but its a something Ive heard from other 991.1 PDK owners) when driving normally and at road speeds (the legal ones). So I've heard the 991.2 turbo engine torque band is a lot better and the base cars are almost as quick as the my 991.1 S. Otherwise I've personalized/individualized my car a little bit starting with CF interior OEM trim inside, IPD plenum upgrade, Akrapovic Ti cat back exhaust (best and hardest upgrade to justify but it does every time I hit the sport PSE button), PSE retrofit, Gunmetal Forgestars F14 wheels in gunmetal (thanks to a fellow RL's), GTS black rear grille, Moon-roof retrofit, Vorsteiner CF rear spoiler, Escort MAX Radar Hardwired, 991.2 Steering wheel retrofit, Sport Design Front bumper, and Techart CF matte black GT3 Sport mirror upgrade. I think that's about it! LOL Only thing I haven't done is tune it...looked at Cobb and the DFE suspension module but not sure if needed and bang for the buck vs upgrading. )
So my question to myself and the forum is are these 991.2's equal to the 991.1s and given the upgrades what would these cars look like equivalent price point (my 2013 991.1 has about 29k miles on it currently so I think given its current state a valuation of mid $60s isn't outrageous no?). I do agree $99k for a 2018 991.2 base seems a bit much even a one owner clean/clear car. A GTS would be perfect probably.
Only you can decide if you prefer the newer fi over na. That said, I can’t see where it’s worrh 30k over the nice car you already have.
I tend to agree. Can’t see that the base 991.2 is worth $40,000 (66%) more than your nicely modified 991.1 C2S with only 29k miles. And the modifications that you’d doubtless do to the 991.2 would push that ‘cost to change’ even higher.
Appreciate the thoughts...notice the lack of SC. As said it was just a lot vehicle pointed out as I discussed having to bring my 2013 991.1 in for its final service prior to my CPO running out. My questions would be 1) are those PCCBs? If so pluses vs minus of those [also wonder why someone would option those on a base 991.2 at that cost!] 2) No Sport Chrono but can it be retrofitted? Ala Suncoast maybe? 3) No PSE but have done a PSE retrofit on my 991.1 so am sure on a 991.2 not too difficult no? 4) Is this price point a bit much especially given the imminent release of allocations of the 992s to dealers in a few months? 5) Offer was to pay and have the CPO extended...didn't know the dealer could do that? At what price point? Likely cheaper than moving into the 991.2 they are floating around me and my service visit I would think! No?
Otherwise it is a close mirror to my 991.1 so that brings the question also IS an upgrade worth it? One thing I do notice on my 991.1 is that I do drive it in Sport almost all the time due to the need to get the NA engine up there in revs and not feel a bit of a lag (yes its a Carrera and fast enough but its a something Ive heard from other 991.1 PDK owners) when driving normally and at road speeds (the legal ones). So I've heard the 991.2 turbo engine torque band is a lot better and the base cars are almost as quick as the my 991.1 S. Otherwise I've personalized/individualized my car a little bit starting with CF interior OEM trim inside, IPD plenum upgrade, Akrapovic Ti cat back exhaust (best and hardest upgrade to justify but it does every time I hit the sport PSE button), PSE retrofit, Gunmetal Forgestars F14 wheels in gunmetal (thanks to a fellow RL's), GTS black rear grille, Moon-roof retrofit, Vorsteiner CF rear spoiler, Escort MAX Radar Hardwired, 991.2 Steering wheel retrofit, Sport Design Front bumper, and Techart CF matte black GT3 Sport mirror upgrade. I think that's about it! LOL Only thing I haven't done is tune it...looked at Cobb and the DFE suspension module but not sure if needed and bang for the buck vs upgrading. )So my question to myself and the forum is are these 991.2's equal to the 991.1s and given the upgrades what would these cars look like equivalent price point (my 2013 991.1 has about 29k miles on it currently so I think given its current state a valuation of mid $60s isn't outrageous no?). I do agree $99k for a 2018 991.2 base seems a bit much even a one owner clean/clear car. A GTS would be perfect probably.
Thoughts? Criticism/applause welcome!
Answer to question 1: That particular car does not have PCCB brakes. They were painted yellow by the original owner.
12-27-2018, 03:13 PM
