Balaclava's C4S European Delivery Diary
07-21-2014, 08:59 AM
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I respectfully disagree. I think the gear ratios are relatively close to each other, which is nice. And I did not find it to be a PITA even when in stop-and-go "stau" for an hour today... I believe it is the best MT currently available in any new car on the market today, with the possible exception of Porsche's own 6-speed in the 981. But I do enjoy the long 7th gear and I believe today the 911C(4)S is the best new sports car available with any MT at all, so I am glad to take it as is. (Perhaps some Corvette Z06 fans would disagree with the above statement, but I doubt many of those are reading this here...)
i think the MT is NICE in that it is a nice transmission, but for enthusiastic driving and track driving, i prefer the PDK as I think it is geared more appropriately.
as a Porsche salesman and also a BMW CCA and PCA instructor, I am lucky enough to drive the two transmissions on a daily basis, and i find the PDK to be the better of the two. i do enjoy the MT in the 981 tho.
either way, your car rocks! and i agree about the MB museum. amazing.
07-21-2014, 01:11 PM
#32
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Awesome trip! Thank you for sharing it with us. Congrats on the C4S. Traditional GR is a great color, especially on the 991. You're going to love this car. I have about 3500 mi. on mine and am amazed EVERY time I drive it.
07-21-2014, 03:09 PM
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Great read and great pictures, thanks for posting this!
Beautiful car and glad you ordered (and like) the MT.
Beautiful car and glad you ordered (and like) the MT.
07-22-2014, 01:53 PM
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Thanks so much for posting your great photos and relating your experiences.
I wonder if we had the same delivery specialist? I was told "warm it up and no launch control for 500 km", nothing about 4200 rpm.
I did ask about break-in, and got the following answers: “for American customers, we must recommend you to keep it below 4200rpm, for everyone else we suggest use it as you normally would: careful while cold, then flat out.” This just confirmed my earlier decision that I am not going to baby it too much, especially not while doing my trip in the Alps. Hit the rev limiter a few times every day for proper exercise.
07-22-2014, 06:38 PM
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Thanks to all of you who commented on this thread. Your feedback made it worth the time it took to write up my trip. I strongly recommend you to take on any opportunity to drive Porsches in Europe in the summer, whether that's European Delivery, Porsche Travel or some other specialized travel agent (Fastlane Travel for example). Or just fly there and rent a Porsche and go to the mountains. You can find culture, food, wine, hikes and great drives. Go for it.
Finally, one more image of what's nice about guards red and at the same time honestly what is slightly wrong with a red 911: that it is not silver or white, but red, the traditional racing color of Italy...
Finally, one more image of what's nice about guards red and at the same time honestly what is slightly wrong with a red 911: that it is not silver or white, but red, the traditional racing color of Italy...
07-25-2014, 02:45 AM
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Great Thread!!! The best ever?? Probably not, but it has my vote to go into the RL hall of fame threads for MUST READS. RL goes back to the 90's and there are a TON of BRILLIANT threads some pages and pages and pages. What Balaclava has done here is to let some of us who have never been to Europe and we can live what its like to take ED through his amazing words and pictures. I have a few comments on your thoughts.
On the lack of power in the lower end and "SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!!!" power over 5K. Most Porsche motors are like this, most notably the GT3. I got my doors blown off by a 335 once in my GT3 because I was in fourth around 4k and not in the right power band. You need to (even in a turbo) keep the revs up and learn how to drive it that way. IN THAT way a 911 is a REALY fast around a track but in no way should you ever lug one around.
The tranny. The way I understand it the MT is the same as inside the PDK.
AND even with the PDK and me I notice a tad bit of low power in the lower RMPS But I cant over rev it until I get past the break in period
On the lack of power in the lower end and "SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!!!" power over 5K. Most Porsche motors are like this, most notably the GT3. I got my doors blown off by a 335 once in my GT3 because I was in fourth around 4k and not in the right power band. You need to (even in a turbo) keep the revs up and learn how to drive it that way. IN THAT way a 911 is a REALY fast around a track but in no way should you ever lug one around.
The tranny. The way I understand it the MT is the same as inside the PDK.
AND even with the PDK and me I notice a tad bit of low power in the lower RMPS But I cant over rev it until I get past the break in period
07-25-2014, 04:05 AM
#43
OG- True PDK and MT share many parts, including even all gear ratios EXCEPT for 3rd, which is taller in the MT. Because all other gears are the same it means a bigger rev drop 2nd to 3rd with the MT vs PDK.
As for your break-in over-rev comment, if you would read the factory quote from the first page or two of this thread then you will both a) know the factory says to break the car in the same way you would normally drive- "careful when cold then flat out", and b) why that quote makes this the best RL thread, ever.
Of course, if you can link to another thread that demolishes equally longstanding dogma in six precise words, forever freeing Americans to finally fully enjoy their brand new Porsches, by all means let us know!
As for your break-in over-rev comment, if you would read the factory quote from the first page or two of this thread then you will both a) know the factory says to break the car in the same way you would normally drive- "careful when cold then flat out", and b) why that quote makes this the best RL thread, ever.
Of course, if you can link to another thread that demolishes equally longstanding dogma in six precise words, forever freeing Americans to finally fully enjoy their brand new Porsches, by all means let us know!
